{"id":32535,"date":"2013-02-21T14:52:54","date_gmt":"2013-02-21T21:52:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/21\/citing-wikipedia.html"},"modified":"2013-02-22T15:46:45","modified_gmt":"2013-02-22T22:46:45","slug":"citing-wikipedia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/21\/citing-wikipedia.html","title":{"rendered":"Citing Wikipedia"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Okay, leave aside that this is kind of a goofy article in some areas, a couple of key items to consider:<\/p>\n<p>1. No teacher should accept any citation from Wikipedia, Yahoo Answers, etc. \u00a0Spend 15 minutes and compile a list of forbidden sites, with options to add to the list if the site appears to be just as problematic. \u00a0Tell students that not only will such citations <i>not<\/i> count toward a citation \/ bibliography quota, but that facts sourced to them will be disregarded when determining the completeness of research.<\/p>\n<p>2. I fully agree we should be teaching kids good source evaluation techniques. \u00a0Indeed, if those kids in (1) above go to the Wikipedia footnote and drill through to and cite <i>that<\/i> article, they should be free and clear to navigate. \u00a0Wikipedia is a great <i>springboard<\/i> for information (and, for non-academic purposes, a quite decent place to go for info in areas that are non-controversial).<\/p>\n<p>I&#39;ll note, though, this is nothing new. Back in my day, the struggle was with kids simply looking up things in encyclopedias. \u00a0Teens aren&#39;t going to exhibit any more &quot;research curiosity&quot; than they absolutely have to; that&#39;s not Wikipedia&#39;s fault, it&#39;s human development. \u00a0And even if, online, they avoid information crowdsourcing \/ aggregation sites, they still need to be taught what good citation material looks like &#8212; TinFoilHatBob.com is going to have some interesting contributions to make to Suzie&#39;s paper about Israel, for example.<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/rack.2.mshcdn.com\/media\/ZgkyMDEyLzEyLzA0LzU2L3N0dWRlbnRzY2l0LjVOVy5qcGcKcAl0aHVtYgk0ODB4NDgwIwplCWpwZw\/83d7f3d4\/c12\/students-citing-wikipedia-could-kill-startups-5783fcaa96.jpg&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/mashable.com\/2012\/11\/27\/students-wikipedia-startups\/'>Students Citing Wikipedia Could Kill Startups<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Students can turn to user-generated search engines for many answers\u2014but not all.\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'><span class='gpb-reshare'><br \/>This post has been reshared 1 times on <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/feTdvJ66yBs' target='_new'>Google+<\/a><br \/><\/span> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/feTdvJ66yBs' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Okay, leave aside that this is kind of a goofy article in some areas, a couple of key items to consider: 1. No teacher should accept any citation from Wikipedia, Yahoo Answers, etc. \u00a0Spend 15 minutes and compile a list of forbidden sites, with options to add to the list if the site appears to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/21\/citing-wikipedia.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Citing Wikipedia&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32535","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10859,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/06\/11\/wikipedia.html","url_meta":{"origin":32535,"position":0},"title":"Wikipedia","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 11-Jun-07 3:05pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I love Wikipedia. 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