{"id":32609,"date":"2013-02-23T14:34:04","date_gmt":"2013-02-23T21:34:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/23\/public-opinion-influence-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html"},"modified":"2013-02-23T14:34:04","modified_gmt":"2013-02-23T21:34:04","slug":"public-opinion-influence-for-me-but-not-for-thee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/23\/public-opinion-influence-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html","title":{"rendered":"Public opinion influence for Me, but not for Thee!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">A very amusing communique from the Vatican&#39;s Secretariat of State, condemning people who are trying to use Public Opinion to influence the selection of the next Pope.<\/p>\n<p>Amusing because &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>1. The Catholic Church has absolutely no hesitation about using the &quot;power of the pulpit&quot; to affect public opinion in countries around the world as to elected representatives, laws being passed, etc.<\/p>\n<p>But the Church, of course, is <i>special,<\/i> because it speaks on behalf of God, so how dare someone suggest that public opinion \u00a0might play into a Church decision. \u00a0_Vox populi vox dei?_ Pish-tosh!<\/p>\n<p>2. <i>&#39;The freedom of the College of Cardinals, which, by law, is responsible for providing for the election of the Roman Pontiff, has always been strongly defended by the Holy See as the guarantee of a choice based solely on deliberations directed toward the good of the Church.&#39;<\/i> Huh. You&#39;d think the deliberations would be directed toward the glory of God and the advancement of His Will, not toward the good of the institution of the Church.<\/p>\n<p>3. I don&#39;t think anyone is impinging on the freedom of the College of Cardinals. \u00a0The idea that efforts to shape public opinion will actually have an effect on such an august council of holy men, none of them actually beholden to democratic institutions, strikes me as showing very little faith in their wisdom or prayerfulness.<\/p>\n<p>4. <i>&#39;Now as never before, Catholics are focusing on what is essential: praying for Pope Benedict, praying that the Holy Spirit might enlighten the College of Cardinals, and praying for the future Pope, confident that the future of the barque of Peter is in God&#39;s hands.&#39;<\/i> Then what are you complaining about?<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/visnews-en.blogspot.com\/2013\/02\/secretariat-of-state-communique.html'>VIS news &#8211; Holy See Press Office: SECRETARIAT OF STATE COMMUNIQUE<\/a><\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/YwCAMAWvkex' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A very amusing communique from the Vatican&#39;s Secretariat of State, condemning people who are trying to use Public Opinion to influence the selection of the next Pope. Amusing because &#8230; 1. The Catholic Church has absolutely no hesitation about using the &quot;power of the pulpit&quot; to affect public opinion in countries around the world as &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/23\/public-opinion-influence-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Public opinion influence for Me, but not for Thee!&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32609","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10902,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/05\/22\/repeat_it_often_enough_an.html","url_meta":{"origin":32609,"position":0},"title":"Repeat it often enough and folks will believe it","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 22-May-07 11:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"As every politician, advertising executive, and blogosphere denizen knows.\u00a0 Repetition of an opinion adds to its persuasiveness, as well as the perception that the opinion is widely held.\u00a0 The \"echo...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Big Business&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Big Business","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/big-business"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":19921,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/01\/21\/unblogged-bits-fri-21-jan-11-1030.html","url_meta":{"origin":32609,"position":1},"title":"Unblogged Bits (Fri. 21-Jan-11 1030)","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 21-Jan-11 10:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"Links (most recent first) that caught my eye, but did not warrant full-blown blog entries .... They Get Death Threats - But, of course, Beck has no responsibility, right? He's out to influence public opinion, but any specific outcome of that influence is not his fault ... unless he decides\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Marriage Equality&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Marriage Equality","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/marriage-equality"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":33733,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/13\/shades-of-gray-close-to-home.html","url_meta":{"origin":32609,"position":2},"title":"Shades of Gray, Close to Home","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 13-May-13 11:15pm","format":false,"excerpt":"So ... this is a tough one.On the one hand, I tend to be a major First Amendment supporter. \u00a0Restricting the freedom to express one's opinion in public space is per se bad for society and dire slippery slope.On the other hand, this was going on at my\u00a0local Episcopal cathedral,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":4560,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/08\/06\/cowboy_theology.html","url_meta":{"origin":32609,"position":3},"title":"Cowboy theology","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 6-Aug-03 3:20pm","format":false,"excerpt":"An interesting piece here on protests by various deputies to the Episcopal General Convention regarding the confirmation of Rev. 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