{"id":32642,"date":"2013-02-27T09:58:02","date_gmt":"2013-02-27T16:58:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/27\/free-speech-is-free-speech-like-it-or-not.html"},"modified":"2013-02-27T09:58:02","modified_gmt":"2013-02-27T16:58:02","slug":"free-speech-is-free-speech-like-it-or-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/27\/free-speech-is-free-speech-like-it-or-not.html","title":{"rendered":"Free speech is free speech, like it or not"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Though courts have ruled that students&#39; constitutional rights can be somewhat abridged while on campus, and it&#39;s a sometimes fuzzy line, generally the burden is on the school to demonstrate the necessity and any restriction must be even-handed (if you&#39;re going to allow social or political advocacy speech on t-shirts, then you can&#39;t decide which causes to back or not).<\/p>\n<p>If you&#39;re going to have a day at school to raise awareness about\u00a0harassment toward gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, then it&#39;s dodgy to try and suppress dissenting political speech about the matter, like a shirt. \u00a0I can see the school&#39;s initial reaction, and even possibly applaud the sentiment behind it, but I think it did represent a suppression of political speech.<\/p>\n<p>This case\u00a0is also worth noting as a demonstration of how the characterization of the ACLU as a &quot;liberal&quot; organization is so often off the mark. \u00a0It&#39;s not a liberal (or conservative) organization. It fights for the rights of people of <i>any<\/i> political persuasion or belief to be heard. It&#39;s just that, more often than not, it&#39;s conservative \/ traditional authorities that have tried to keep a lid on dissenting speech, thus making it seem like the ACLU is just out to fight for liberal causes. They are not, as this case clearly shows.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/103748887870095862080'>Les Jenkins<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If speech is free then it must protect unpopular as well as popular speech.\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/i1.wp.com\/www.alan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/rainbow-shirt_20130226124202_320_240.jpg?resize%3D300%252C201&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.alan.com\/2013\/02\/26\/connecticut-school-backs-down-permits-anti-gay-shirt\/'>Connecticut School Backs Down; Permits Anti-Gay Shirt<\/a><br \/>\n                                                The ACLU and the school regard it as free speech.<br \/>\nThe lawyer for the school district this month wrote to the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut, saying Wolcott High School student Seth Groody may wear the T-shirt, which bears a slash mark through a rainbow. The other side showed a male and female stick figure holding hands above the message \u201cExcessive Speech Day,\u201d the ACLU of Connecticut said.<br \/>\nThe ACLU said Groody wore the shirt April &#8230;\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/E3yZfqusJSq' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Though courts have ruled that students&#39; constitutional rights can be somewhat abridged while on campus, and it&#39;s a sometimes fuzzy line, generally the burden is on the school to demonstrate the necessity and any restriction must be even-handed (if you&#39;re going to allow social or political advocacy speech on t-shirts, then you can&#39;t decide which &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/27\/free-speech-is-free-speech-like-it-or-not.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Free speech is free speech, like it or not&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32642","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":137075,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/09\/07\/because-donald-misses-a-chance-to-be-petty.html","url_meta":{"origin":32642,"position":0},"title":"Because Donald never misses a chance to be petty","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 7-Sep-18 4:16pm","format":false,"excerpt":"On the bright side, he sounds more like a snotty twelve-year-old than the usual fractious nine-year-old. 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