{"id":32839,"date":"2013-03-20T07:25:51","date_gmt":"2013-03-20T13:25:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/03\/20\/freedom-vs-security.html"},"modified":"2013-03-20T07:25:51","modified_gmt":"2013-03-20T13:25:51","slug":"freedom-vs-security","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/03\/20\/freedom-vs-security.html","title":{"rendered":"Freedom vs. Security"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Okay, let&#39;s be fair. The cops will <i>always<\/i> want easy access to more information. Any information out there? \u00a0They want to be able to get it, or get logs of it, or get transcripts of it. \u00a0If the technology existed to record every phone conversation that anyone ever had and retrieve if upon a court order (or simply by saying &quot;It&#39;s an emergency!&quot;), cops would want to be able to do that.<\/p>\n<p>Because, to be honest, life would be easier for cops, and some incremental number more criminals would in fact be caught, if there were no privacy protections. If the cops could look at anyone&#39;s text messages, or listen to their phone calls, or pat people down, or search their homes, whenever they wanted to.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there would be some nasty side effects. Such power <i>would,<\/i> inevitably, be abused by those in power (or by those others who might access the information the cops get). That&#39;s not a hypothetical &#8212; that can be pointed out with any investigatory power that is ever given to any security or law enforcement agency.<\/p>\n<p>That&#39;s what society needs to keep in mind as they get presented by very earnest and reasonable-sounding police officials asking for more ways to get to your personal life. \u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/asset3.cbsistatic.com\/cnwk.1d\/i\/tim\/2013\/03\/19\/sensenbrenner_610x371.png&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-13578_3-57575039-38\/cops-u.s-law-should-require-logs-of-your-text-messages\/'>Cops: U.S. law should require logs of your text messages<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Silicon Valley firms and privacy groups want Congress to update a 1986-era electronic privacy law. But if a law enforcement idea set to be presented today gets attached, support for the popular propos&#8230;\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'><span class='gpb-reshare'><br \/>This post has been reshared 1 times on <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/bmpXr44bH2V' target='_new'>Google+<\/a><br \/><\/span> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/bmpXr44bH2V' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Okay, let&#39;s be fair. The cops will always want easy access to more information. Any information out there? \u00a0They want to be able to get it, or get logs of it, or get transcripts of it. \u00a0If the technology existed to record every phone conversation that anyone ever had and retrieve if upon a court &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/03\/20\/freedom-vs-security.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Freedom vs. Security&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32839","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":23386,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/02\/cops-and-protesters.html","url_meta":{"origin":32839,"position":0},"title":"Cops and Protesters","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 2-Nov-11 10:21am","format":false,"excerpt":"I don't envy police who are sent to contain or control protests, especially since there are usually protesters (some of them even not agents provocateur) who are looking for trouble in even the most peaceful settings. 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