{"id":32988,"date":"2013-04-01T14:43:40","date_gmt":"2013-04-01T20:43:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/04\/01\/losing-their-right-to-be-the-majority-opinion.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T14:22:40","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T21:22:40","slug":"losing-their-right-to-be-the-majority-opinion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/04\/01\/losing-their-right-to-be-the-majority-opinion.html","title":{"rendered":"Losing their &quot;right&quot; to be the majority opinion"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Money quote:\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;One of the folks we\u2019re talking about just asked me on Twitter, in so many words, &quot;What happened to free speech? Now if you don\u2019t agree with gay marriage you\u2019re in trouble?&quot; Obviously we all have free speech. But what people usually want with free speech is the ability to speak their mind <b>and not have people think worse of them for it.<\/b> And on gay rights if not quite yet on full marriage equality, these folks sense they may be losing that right.&#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>It&#39;s always hard when your opinion, openly expressed, goes from being the norm, to the majority, to debatable, to the minority. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>See, also, this:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/theoatmeal.com\/comics\/gay_marriage\" class=\"ot-anchor\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/theoatmeal.com\/comics\/gay_marriage<\/a><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images3-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/assets_c\/2013\/03\/time-magazine-covers-gay-marriage-kiss-cropped-proto-custom_6.jpg&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/editors.talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/2013\/03\/whiplash.php'>Whiplash<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Over the last few days, as the emerging national marriage equality consensus has become more clear, a number of social conservatives have begun suggesting they are now in a new and oppressive climate &#8230;\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/9JjF7NCbCtu' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Money quote:\u00a0 &#39;One of the folks we\u2019re talking about just asked me on Twitter, in so many words, &quot;What happened to free speech? Now if you don\u2019t agree with gay marriage you\u2019re in trouble?&quot; Obviously we all have free speech. But what people usually want with free speech is the ability to speak their mind &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/04\/01\/losing-their-right-to-be-the-majority-opinion.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Losing their &quot;right&quot; to be the majority opinion&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32988","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":28296,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/15\/because-democracy-is-clearly-not-about-equal-protection.html","url_meta":{"origin":32988,"position":0},"title":"Because &quot;democracy&quot; is clearly not about equal protection","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 15-Jun-12 8:25am","format":false,"excerpt":".. or free speechIf you're going to give kids an assignment to write a speech on \"democracy\" and there are topic areas you want them to steer clear of -- like, for example, controversial topics, or topics that some parents might get into a tizzy over, even if they are\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":39305,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/22\/pot-and-gays-america-approves.html","url_meta":{"origin":32988,"position":1},"title":"Pot and Gays: America approves","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 22-Oct-13 11:29pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Both legalization of marijuana and gay marriage are solidly majority opinions in the US. \u00a0Who'dathunk?Though, as a commentary on the headline below, while I myself am okay with folks smoking pot, and am cool with gay weddings (having attended same and even played a role in same), if you're smoking\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5282,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/04\/13\/when_they_came.html","url_meta":{"origin":32988,"position":2},"title":"When they came for &#8230;","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 13-Apr-04 7:32am","format":false,"excerpt":"Where's Martin Niemoeller when you need him? 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