{"id":33492,"date":"2013-05-01T13:09:25","date_gmt":"2013-05-01T19:09:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/01\/frontier-airlines-is-going-to-debundle-itself-out-of-business.html"},"modified":"2013-05-02T06:57:57","modified_gmt":"2013-05-02T12:57:57","slug":"frontier-airlines-is-going-to-debundle-itself-out-of-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/01\/frontier-airlines-is-going-to-debundle-itself-out-of-business.html","title":{"rendered":"Frontier Airlines is going to debundle itself out of business"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">When Frontier was first around in Denver, not only were the a great price competitor with United, but their service was excellent, their planes new, their people friendly.<\/p>\n<p>The crunch of the airline industry post-9\/11, coupled with an unfortunate merger and the general trends in the airline biz, have made Frontier not much better than UAL or other major carriers. \u00a0The &quot;$2 for a drink&quot; and extra charges for carry-on bags just completes the picture.<\/p>\n<p>Most airlines seem to have latched onto a two-part model: \u00a0(1) charge for everything, (2) focus on frequent travelers. \u00a0That leaves non-business travelers and families going on vacation in a big, black hole. \u00a0Or flying Southwest, which seems to be (mostly) bucking the trend.<\/p>\n<p>So, Frontier: if you want to charge me for drinks, then add the $2 (or, hell, make it $5 for refills) onto the ticket. \u00a0While I am price-sensitive to some degree, I will also favor airlines that are a pleasant experience within a certain margin. \u00a0Giving me marginally lower fares in return for forking over $2 for a club soda is not pleasant.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/111267716732125387127'>The Denver Post<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Denver-based carrier, Frontier Airlines, will begin charging for drinks and carry-on bags by the summer for customers who buy the &quot;Basic&quot; fare \u2014 which is the cheapest bracket \u2014 from a third-party site.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/extras.mnginteractive.com\/live\/media\/site36\/2013\/0322\/20130322_070414_frontier.jpg&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/breakingnews\/ci_23147455\/frontier-airlines-charge-some-customers-carry-ons-drinks'>Frontier Airlines to charge some customers for carry-ons, drinks<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Frontier Airlines announced Wednesday huge changes to its fee structure, including charges for beverages and overhead bin space for some customers.\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/XSSANCqXRQL' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Frontier was first around in Denver, not only were the a great price competitor with United, but their service was excellent, their planes new, their people friendly. The crunch of the airline industry post-9\/11, coupled with an unfortunate merger and the general trends in the airline biz, have made Frontier not much better than &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/01\/frontier-airlines-is-going-to-debundle-itself-out-of-business.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Frontier Airlines is going to debundle itself out of business&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,35,26],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-big-business","category-travel"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":15588,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/08\/14\/saving-the-airline-animals.html","url_meta":{"origin":33492,"position":0},"title":"Saving the Airline Animals","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 14-Aug-09 7:58pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Republic has won the bidding for bankrupt Frontier Airlines, beating out Southwest.\u00a0 Republic improved its initial $108.75 million offer, removing pre-closing conditions and receiving antitrust clearance as part of submitting what was deemed the best offer for the bankrupt Frontier. 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