{"id":33939,"date":"2013-05-20T16:56:07","date_gmt":"2013-05-20T22:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/20\/bullets-dont-care-if-theyre-fired-by-good-guys-or-bad-guys.html"},"modified":"2013-05-29T09:31:20","modified_gmt":"2013-05-29T15:31:20","slug":"bullets-dont-care-if-theyre-fired-by-good-guys-or-bad-guys","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/20\/bullets-dont-care-if-theyre-fired-by-good-guys-or-bad-guys.html","title":{"rendered":"Bullets don&#39;t care if they&#39;re fired by good guys or bad guys"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">NRA head Wayne LaPierre insists that\u00a0&quot;the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.&quot; \u00a0The problem is, sometimes good guys get &quot;stopped&quot; by other good guys with guns. \u00a0Whether it&#39;s kids accidentally shooting each other, or innocents caught by &quot;friendly fire,&quot; guns can kill you just as dead if shot by a cop or a 5-year-old as by a thug or\u00a0homicidal\u00a0maniac.<\/p>\n<p>Now that doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that guns should be banned. \u00a0Risk assessment is critical in this kind of public policy, and anecdotes about innocents being shot are no less and more anecdotes about innocents using a gun to avoid being murdered or raped. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But the willful ignoring of the dangers of firearms, and the idea that if we just give everyone guns and make sure they are trained that everyone will be safe is &#8230; crazy.<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/uxnSpjIR6_v1lriyxRbMUklIYtuN4cw9x75CH0QLd0wsp-ChdLyex60oBbF8Mg0GkLQNAKUEY_B9-QHPpBDvWDOxnfWLmTMxulHa-7p40uZM3gAGHIQB9YZPUIONDA=w125-h125' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/justice\/2013\/05\/20\/2035351\/college-student-accidentally-shot-by-good-guy-with-a-gun\/?mobile=nc'>College Student Accidentally Shot By Good Guy With A Gun<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Late last week, 21 year old Hofstra University student Andrea Rebello was shot and killed during an attempted robbery in a group house near the Uniondale, New York campus. But the initial assumption \u2014 that Rebello was murdered by the suspected robber Dalton Smith during a shoot-out with police \u2014 now appears to be wrong. [&#8230;]\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/cCzQWb1x1SN' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NRA head Wayne LaPierre insists that\u00a0&quot;the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.&quot; \u00a0The problem is, sometimes good guys get &quot;stopped&quot; by other good guys with guns. \u00a0Whether it&#39;s kids accidentally shooting each other, or innocents caught by &quot;friendly fire,&quot; guns can kill you just &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/05\/20\/bullets-dont-care-if-theyre-fired-by-good-guys-or-bad-guys.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Bullets don&#39;t care if they&#39;re fired by good guys or bad guys&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,298],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33939","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-guns"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":31920,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/12\/27\/guns-kill-people.html","url_meta":{"origin":33939,"position":0},"title":"Guns kill people","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 27-Dec-12 10:05am","format":false,"excerpt":"Well, no, of course they don't. We don't have intelligent, mobile guns yet (waves at Skynet). \u00a0But ...'You know that line, \u201cguns don\u2019t kill people, people kill people?\u201d It\u2019s true, so far as it goes. But in the United States, when people decide to kill people, or kill themselves, they\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":51786,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/18\/gun-free-zones-are-evil-except-yknow-for-ours.html","url_meta":{"origin":33939,"position":1},"title":"Gun-free zones are evil! Except, y&#039;know, for ours","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 18-Jul-15 1:40pm","format":false,"excerpt":"How do gun-friendly politicians justify protecting themselves -- their legislative chambers, in particular -- from people carrying fire-arms. 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Because, sadly, there is no\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Gaming&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Gaming","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/gaming"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/0725-guns-sale-up.jpg_full_6001.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/0725-guns-sale-up.jpg_full_6001.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/0725-guns-sale-up.jpg_full_6001.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":42235,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/27\/the-mythology-of-guns.html","url_meta":{"origin":33939,"position":3},"title":"The Mythology of Guns","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 27-May-14 11:19pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Sometimes it seems that a lot of the pro-gun arguments in this nation are a combination of what folks have seen in TV\/movies and gun-manufacturer-backed propaganda.For example, there's this idea that, \"Well, if I had a gun and was there, I'd keep that Bad Thing from happening.\" \u00a0When in reality\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":128269,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/10\/09\/mike-huckabee-is-a-dolt-shooting-off-ones-mouth-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":33939,"position":4},"title":"Mike Huckabee is a Dolt (Shooting Off One&#8217;s Mouth Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 9-Oct-15 5:09pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Hey, Mike! Long time no talk with! Seems ages ago since you were the avuncular guest visitor on Jon Stewart. Y'know, the guy who was clearly conservative, but also clever, friendly, smiling, and probably a neat fellow to have over to the house. So what's new? 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