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How do you stay friends with (or married to) someone whose political views are just plain crazy (however you define it)? Some interesting thoughts here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Margie and I aren’t in lockstep in our political and social ideologies — though both of us are close enough, and tolerant enough, that it’s rare that we differ too profoundly). We tend to argue more about how we argue than about what we argue. Which, perhaps, is the point of this essay.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

How do you stay friends with (or married to) someone whose political views are just plain crazy (however you define it)? Some interesting thoughts here. Margie and I aren’t in…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3417","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-law"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":160762,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2025\/04\/08\/the-big-three-oh.html","url_meta":{"origin":3417,"position":0},"title":"The Big Three-Oh","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 8-Apr-25 6:41pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Anniversary time!","rel":"","context":"In "Love & Marriage"","block_context":{"text":"Love & Marriage","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/personal\/love-and-marriage"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/wedding-3.jpg?resize=1400%2C800&ssl=1 4x"},"classes":[]},{"id":135928,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/03\/06\/spring-is-springing.html","url_meta":{"origin":3417,"position":1},"title":"Spring is Springing","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 6-Mar-18 10:58pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I really don't feel like we've had winter yet. 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