{"id":37838,"date":"2013-06-16T19:00:55","date_gmt":"2013-06-17T01:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/06\/16\/religious-freedom-license-plates-and-a-twist.html"},"modified":"2013-06-30T18:01:50","modified_gmt":"2013-07-01T00:01:50","slug":"religious-freedom-license-plates-and-a-twist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/06\/16\/religious-freedom-license-plates-and-a-twist.html","title":{"rendered":"Religious freedom, license plates, and a twist"},"content":{"rendered":"
Usually it's folks suing about explicitly Christian messages on state license plates. \u00a0In a culture that is overtly (and majority) Christian, that's not difficult to imagine.<\/p>\n

The twist in this case is that it's a Christian suing, saying that a Native American artwork used on Oklahoma's current plate has an clear religious message, and he doesn't like that at all.<\/p>\n

And y'know what? \u00a0I'm fine with that. Nobody should be compelled by the state to display a religious icon or message that they find personally offensive or at odds with their own faith (or lack thereof). \u00a0While Christians are a majority, that should First Amendment principle should protect them as much as anyone else (even if they less frequently need such protection).<\/p><\/div>\n

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Appeals court: Christian can sue Oklahoma over Native American license plate | The Raw Story<\/a>
\n Judge Paul J. Kelly Jr., appointed by President George H.W. Bush, wrote in his dissent, \u201cMr. Cressman has connected the image on Oklahoma’s license plate to the sculpture and that sculpture to a Native American legend. He asserts that the license plate promotes ‘pantheism, panentheism, …\n <\/p>\n

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Usually it's folks suing about explicitly Christian messages on state license plates. \u00a0In a culture that is overtly (and majority) Christian, that's not difficult to imagine. 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