{"id":37863,"date":"2013-06-20T16:31:49","date_gmt":"2013-06-20T22:31:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/06\/20\/the-us-civil-war-was-the-worst-war-ever.html"},"modified":"2013-06-30T17:20:10","modified_gmt":"2013-06-30T23:20:10","slug":"the-us-civil-war-was-the-worst-war-ever","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/06\/20\/the-us-civil-war-was-the-worst-war-ever.html","title":{"rendered":"The US Civil War was the worst war ever"},"content":{"rendered":"
… except for all the others that have been fought.<\/p>\n

Was the Civil War necessary? Could it have been avoided? \u00a0Was it a great failure, or "just" a great tragedy? \u00a0Did its blood-soaked horror, and the century-long aftermath of poverty and continued injustice, make up for its defeat of overt, manifest slavery?<\/p>\n

Ta-Nehisi Coates, as a black American, has his own perspective:<\/p>\n

'The brutal culmination of that war may not have allowed us to ascend into a post-racial heaven. But here is something I always come back to: In 1859 legally selling someone's five-year-old child was big business. In 1866, it was not. American Slavery was a system of perpetual existential violence. The idea that it could have been — or should have been — ended, after two and a half centuries of practice, with a handshake and an ice-cream social strikes me as really wrong.'<\/i><\/div>\n

\n

\n \n <\/div>\n

The Unromantic Slaughter of the Civil War<\/a>
\n Was the Civil War avoidable — or was it the culminating violence of a quieter war that had already been going on for centuries?\n <\/p>\n

View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

… except for all the others that have been fought. Was the Civil War necessary? Could it have been avoided? \u00a0Was it a great failure, or "just" a great tragedy? \u00a0Did its blood-soaked horror, and the century-long aftermath of poverty and continued injustice, make up for its defeat of overt, manifest slavery? Ta-Nehisi Coates, as … Continue reading “The US Civil War was the worst war ever”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,350,108],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37863","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-civil-liberties","category-history"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":160296,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2023\/12\/28\/111659687292389076.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":0},"title":"Nikki Haley tries to dance around Slavery and the Civil War","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 28-Dec-23 6:03pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Because the only acceptable answer in the GOP is that the Civil War was about Big Government!","rel":"","context":"In "~Toots"","block_context":{"text":"~Toots","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/toot"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":135234,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/10\/31\/compromising-compromise-lessons-history.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":1},"title":"Compromising compromise and the lessons of history","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 31-Oct-17 4:32pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Which just goes to show that even the \"adult in the room\" can say some doltish things. Now, I like to think of myself as a reasonable, get-along sort of guy, and I'm often able to find room to compromise between what I want and what others want. Not always\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/John-Kelly.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":128453,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/10\/28\/words-mean-things-civil-war-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":2},"title":"Words Mean Things (Civil War Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 28-Oct-15 5:02am","format":false,"excerpt":"Language evolves and changes. Words get worn down over time, or drift and find new meanings. Old word stop meaning what they used to. Or sometimes our understanding of words changes, and what was acceptable becomes fraught, for reasons serious or silly.That said, I'm always a bit leery of intentional\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":51759,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/16\/waving-the-confederate-flag.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":3},"title":"Waving the Confederate flag","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 16-Jul-15 4:14pm","format":false,"excerpt":"As part of the crowd greeting President Obama in Oklahoma City, we got this particular band of flag-wavers:http:\/\/www.motherjones.com\/mojo\/2015\/07\/obama-greeted-by-confederate-flags-oklahoma-cityActually, this demonstrates a good thing: the Confederate Battle Flag may be getting kicked off of official government displays, but the First Amendment means that individuals can still wave it around to reveal\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/CKAQt4GW8AQ0sWj5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/CKAQt4GW8AQ0sWj5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/CKAQt4GW8AQ0sWj5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":30270,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/14\/antietam.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":4},"title":"Antietam","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 14-Sep-12 11:25pm","format":false,"excerpt":"A look at the Civil War battle, 150 years ago this coming week. Embedded Link At Antietam, desperate, bloody battle led to a Civil War turning point Along Antietam Creek 150 years ago this month, the single bloodiest one-day battle in American military history led to a turning point in\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":11696,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/07\/12\/the_other_13th_amendment.html","url_meta":{"origin":37863,"position":5},"title":"The Other 13th Amendment","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 12-Jul-07 12:54pm","format":false,"excerpt":"We all know the Thirteenth Amendment to the US Constitution banned slavery in the US. But what about the other Thirteenth Amendment.\u00a0 You know, the one that banned citizens...","rel":"","context":"In "Politics & Law"","block_context":{"text":"Politics & Law","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/13th-amendment.gif?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37863","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37863"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37863\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37991,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37863\/revisions\/37991"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37863"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37863"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37863"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}