{"id":3810,"date":"2003-03-26T14:26:27","date_gmt":"2003-03-26T19:26:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=3810"},"modified":"2003-03-26T14:26:27","modified_gmt":"2003-03-26T19:26:27","slug":"well_well_well","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/03\/26\/well_well_well.html","title":{"rendered":"Well, well, well"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When is the war not going well?  Depends on who&#8217;s writing the headlines and analysis.<\/p>\n<p><i><a href=\"http:\/\/people-press.org\/reports\/display.php3?ReportID=177\">Public Confidence In War Effort Falters <\/a><\/i><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s what the Pew Research Center says is the result of their poll, with an <a href=\"http:\/\/people-press.org\/reports\/images\/177-1.gif\">adjoining graph <\/a>that shows public perception of how the war is going plummiting to low levels.<\/p>\n<p>But &#8230; the graph starts at what looks like the 30% mark.  So when people answering a certain way drop to 38%, it looks like it&#8217;s the bottom of the barrel, when it remains over a third.<\/p>\n<p>And &#8230; the question asked is &#8220;How well is the U.S. military effort in Iraq going?&#8221;  The graph is how many people think it is going <i>Very Well<\/i>.  That&#8217;s the highest ranking (vs. <i>Fairly Well, Not Too Well, Not At All Well,<\/i> or <i>Don&#8217;t Know\/Refused<\/i>).  And that data has, in fact, dropped over the last days:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The percentage of the public thinking the war was going very well was as high as 71% on Friday and Saturday, only to fall to 52% on Sunday and 38% Monday as the public learned of American casualties and POW&#8217;s. Overall, the interviews by Sunday and Monday found about as many people thinking the war effort was going just fairly well (41%) as opposed to very well (45%).<\/p>\n<p>But look at it in a more aggregate fashion.  How many people think the war is going well?  86%.  That&#8217;s remarkable for &#8220;faltering&#8221; public confidence.  <\/p>\n<p>Clyde at the Command Post got the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.command-post.org\/archives\/001915.html\">breakdown of the data <\/a>from Pew.<\/p>\n<p><center><\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Answer<\/td>\n<td>Thursday<\/td>\n<td>Friday<\/td>\n<td>Saturday<\/td>\n<td>Sunday<\/td>\n<td>Monday<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Very well<\/td>\n<td>49.9<\/td>\n<td>70.9<\/td>\n<td>70.7<\/td>\n<td>51.6<\/td>\n<td>38.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Fairly well<\/td>\n<td>30.2<\/td>\n<td>22.8<\/td>\n<td>22.2<\/td>\n<td>34.3<\/td>\n<td>47.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>subtotals<\/td>\n<td>80.1<\/td>\n<td>93.7<\/td>\n<td>92.9<\/td>\n<td>85.9<\/td>\n<td>85.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/center><\/p>\n<p>So while the number of folks thinking the military effort is going well is lower than over the weekend, it&#8217;s higher than when war broke out.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t put a lot of stock in polls of this sort, both because it&#8217;s asking for a relatively uninformed opinion, and because it is going to be subject to both spin and volatility.  Having a daily national referendum on military decisions is not terribly helpful in actually winning a conflict.<\/p>\n<p>But I do find it interesting as an example of how you can spin data.  Especially when you consider that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oaklandtribune.com\/Stories\/0,1413,82~1865~1271228,00.html\">AP picked up the story<\/a>, but dropped &#8220;Very&#8221; from what rank Pew was reporting, making it seem, well &#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">WASHINGTON &#8212; Images of battered American POWs, a downed Apache helicopter and U.S. fatalities in Iraq have had a dramatic impact on the public&#8217;s perception of the war. <b>Just 38 percent said the conflict was going well Monday<\/b>, down from 71 percent on Friday, according to a poll by the Pew Research Center.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When is the war not going well? Depends on who&#8217;s writing the headlines and analysis. 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