{"id":38150,"date":"2013-07-05T14:29:32","date_gmt":"2013-07-05T20:29:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/05\/france-does-its-own-nsa-style-snooping.html"},"modified":"2013-07-05T17:54:23","modified_gmt":"2013-07-05T23:54:23","slug":"france-does-its-own-nsa-style-snooping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/05\/france-does-its-own-nsa-style-snooping.html","title":{"rendered":"France does its own NSA-style snooping"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Is anyone actually surprised by this? Is anyone going to suggest that other major Western intelligence (internal or external) security services don&#39;t do the same?<\/p>\n<p>Not that it isn&#39;t (or shouldn&#39;t be considered) a problem, or that we don&#39;t need more discussion and transparency about the whole thing\u00a0&#8212; but the more-righteous-than-thou foreign governmental responses to NSA and PRISM, et al., have always seemed to me\u00a0a bit dubious.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/114621063293418511073'>Ars Technica<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>France also scoops up phone, Internet metadata on its citizens <a href=\"http:\/\/ars.to\/17XUPr6\" class=\"ot-anchor\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/ars.to\/17XUPr6<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/tcPTUtTGBED1ISd8Zz1DCepsQGpgJzYi0t1qASAPr1uEA_E8-UZ3lE_KPUV6htdZPdzugjV6wn_cW299RanDsq2vw0ltmiy0CMhx66Xs=w125-h125' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/ars.to\/17XUPr6'>France also scoops up phone, Internet metadata on its citizens<\/a><br \/>\n                                                &#8220;Perfectly illegal,&#8221; says newspaper.  \n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/JWQBHY9vYPW' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is anyone actually surprised by this? Is anyone going to suggest that other major Western intelligence (internal or external) security services don&#39;t do the same? Not that it isn&#39;t (or shouldn&#39;t be considered) a problem, or that we don&#39;t need more discussion and transparency about the whole thing\u00a0&#8212; but the more-righteous-than-thou foreign governmental responses to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/05\/france-does-its-own-nsa-style-snooping.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;France does its own NSA-style snooping&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,132],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38150","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-privacy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":128044,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/09\/17\/whats-good-for-the-nsa-is-good-for-the-chinese.html","url_meta":{"origin":38150,"position":0},"title":"What&#039;s good for the NSA is good for the Chinese","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 17-Sep-15 10:01pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Is anyone surprised that the Chinese want as much back-door access to systems and data and cryptographic systems as, say, the NSA and US intelligence agencies do?And aside from \"Well, we're the good guys and they're the bad guys,\" how can you argue with that? Especially given the size of\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":39622,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/08\/google-vs-nsa-round-2.html","url_meta":{"origin":38150,"position":1},"title":"Google vs. NSA, Round 2","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 8-Nov-13 12:05pm","format":false,"excerpt":"If the NSA were revealed to be tapping into the Koch Brothers business operation networks, I suspect we'd see a lot more outrage on Capitol Hill.Reshared post from +Les JenkinsI'm happy to see both Google not just sitting idly by while their internal traffic is intercepted by the government. 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