{"id":38234,"date":"2013-07-11T14:30:15","date_gmt":"2013-07-11T20:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/11\/farm-bills-and-food-bills.html"},"modified":"2013-07-16T09:39:37","modified_gmt":"2013-07-16T15:39:37","slug":"farm-bills-and-food-bills","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/07\/11\/farm-bills-and-food-bills.html","title":{"rendered":"Farm Bills and Food Bills"},"content":{"rendered":"
Up front, I will say that I would rather see SNAP (Food Stamps) dealt with separately from the Farm Bill, if only because it's a lot more tidy that way. \u00a0Each requires its own separate debate, and agriculture policy should not be held hostage to socal net policy (and vice-versa).<\/p>\n

Except, of course, sometimes that hostage taking is necessary to get any sort of action. \u00a0Hence the GOP's passage in the House of a Farm Bill that doesn't include any<\/i> SNAP funding … with a promise to raise it in a separate bill later. \u00a0Which (unless they're willing to buy a pig in a poke) the Senate Democrats will refuse to pass, or only pass with SNAP funding put back in.<\/p>\n

Since that's the contentious part of all this, a desire to deal with the matter rationally<\/i> would have had the GOP passing a SNAP bill (doubtless with major cuts), and then start to work on a Farm Bill. That they went in the order they went indicates either they have no shame or simply expect that it will all get negotiated back together in committee after they've scored their political points with the "let them eat cake" crowd.<\/div>\n

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Farm Bill passes in House, without food stamp funding<\/a>
\n Republicans plan to hold a separate vote on food stamps later this month.\n <\/p>\n

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Up front, I will say that I would rather see SNAP (Food Stamps) dealt with separately from the Farm Bill, if only because it's a lot more tidy that way. \u00a0Each requires its own separate debate, and agriculture policy should not be held hostage to socal net policy (and vice-versa). Except, of course, sometimes that … Continue reading “Farm Bills and Food Bills”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,9,358,376],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38234","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-politics-law","category-poor-citizenship","category-taxing-spending"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":137714,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/01\/25\/trump-backs-down-on-holding-the-federal-government-hostage-for-a-few-weeks.html","url_meta":{"origin":38234,"position":0},"title":"Trump backs down on holding the federal government hostage (for a few weeks)","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 25-Jan-19 12:59pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Though I can't help thinking it's so he can come up with an even more dastardly plan. 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