{"id":3838,"date":"2003-03-22T17:08:00","date_gmt":"2003-03-22T22:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=3838"},"modified":"2003-03-22T17:08:00","modified_gmt":"2003-03-22T22:08:00","slug":"this_n_that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/03\/22\/this_n_that.html","title":{"rendered":"This &#8216;n&#8217; That"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Observations on watching MSNBC.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>An attack on a military encampment during wartime is not properly called &#8220;terrorism.&#8221;  It&#8217;s possible that the folks who did it may be normally terrorists, or they may be commandos or Iraqi special operations units.  But it&#8217;s wartime.  It&#8217;s an <i>attack<\/i>, a <i>raid<\/i>, something like that.  Let&#8217;s use our language carefully, folks.\n<li>If you go marching in protests and you have your kid up on your shoulder, <i>you are putting your child in danger, asshole.<\/i>  You&#8217;ve read the papers.  You know what&#8217;s going on in these protests.  You know that there are fringe elements, committing vandalism and violence.  You know that arrests are being made.  <i>What the fuck are you doing with your little kid on your shoulders in the middle of that, asshole?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>And if you get into a shouting match with the cops, and they feel the need to restrain you, don&#8217;t be outraged when they pull the kid off your shoulders.  You&#8217;re lucky you&#8217;ll probably be getting the kid back.<\/p>\n<li>Nice to see that ANSWER is still out there, printing banners and organizing these events.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/01\/20\/ides_of_marches.html\">Lie down with pigs<\/a>, get up with stink, folks.<\/p>\n<li>&#8220;I will put my life on the line, every day, until this war is stopped!&#8221;  How?  By shouting into a microphone in the middle of San Francisco.  Wooo &#8212; if that&#8217;s putting your life on the line, <i>what&#8217;s that other guy doing there with his frickin&#8217; kid on his shoulders?<\/i><\/ol>\n<p><u>UPDATE<\/u>:  Of course, item #1 is someone obsolete now, since it seems that the attack involved an American soldier, an NCO engineer.  There are also some reports (online, not on any of the broadcast media I&#8217;ve seen) that he&#8217;s a black Muslim as well, which will have rather unfortunately consequences.  At any rate, it still doesn&#8217;t look like <i>terrorism<\/i>.  <i>Attempted murder <\/i>and <i>treason<\/i>, perhaps.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Observations on watching MSNBC. 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