{"id":38545,"date":"2013-08-22T17:52:16","date_gmt":"2013-08-22T23:52:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/22\/omg-joss-whedon-hates-the-empire-strikes-back.html"},"modified":"2014-11-06T09:24:57","modified_gmt":"2014-11-06T16:24:57","slug":"omg-joss-whedon-hates-the-empire-strikes-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/08\/22\/omg-joss-whedon-hates-the-empire-strikes-back.html","title":{"rendered":"OMG, Joss Whedon hates "The Empire Strikes Back"!"},"content":{"rendered":"
Except he doesn't. But you'd never guess by some of the kertweetling out there today.<\/p>\n

What he actually<\/i> said was that he though the ending kind of sucked.<\/p>\n

'"Empire committed the cardinal sin of not actually ending,\u201d Whedon declares. \u201cWhich at the time I was appalled by and I still think it was a terrible idea. It\u2019s a Come Back Next Week, or in three years. And that upsets me. I go to movies expecting to have a whole experience. If I want a movie that doesn\u2019t end I\u2019ll go to a French movie. That\u2019s a betrayal of trust to me. A movie has to be complete within itself, it can\u2019t just build off the first one or play variations.\u201d'<\/i><\/p>\n

And, I must confess, that while I like "Empire" the best of the original trilogy, I completely agree with Whedon here. \u00a0It's not even a cliff-hanger in the traditional sense. \u00a0Nothing has been resolved save mere survival, and things are only getting worse, which is fine — except there's no urgency<\/i> about the reversal, nothing to make you take it seriously. \u00a0Our team (except Han) are safe and snug. Lando and Chewie jetting off on a road trip,\u00a0and Luke and Leia and the droids having a comforting hug standing in front of the picture window and ROLL CREDITS!\u00a0\u00a0There's no finish, just a big, relaxing pause, which is the worst of all worlds.<\/p>\n

That doesn't mean I hate "Empire." It means I think the ending kind of sucked.<\/p><\/div>\n

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Why Whedon thinks The Empire Strikes Back was ‘a betrayal of trust’<\/a>
\n The Empire Strikes back is considered one of the best sequels ever made. But according to Joss Whedon, it wasn’t perfect. There was one glaring issue that still bugs him to the day.\n <\/p>\n

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Except he doesn't. But you'd never guess by some of the kertweetling out there today. What he actually said was that he though the ending kind of sucked. '"Empire committed the cardinal sin of not actually ending,\u201d Whedon declares. \u201cWhich at the time I was appalled by and I still think it was a terrible … Continue reading “OMG, Joss Whedon hates "The Empire Strikes Back"!”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,372],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38545","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-star-wars-media-movies"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":27838,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/05\/09\/joss-whedon-and-superheroines.html","url_meta":{"origin":38545,"position":0},"title":"Joss Whedon and superheroines","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 9-May-12 2:47pm","format":false,"excerpt":"That anyone's talking about a \"Black Widow\" movie now (vs., say, a year ago, when it would have been laughed out of Hollywood) is in itself astonishing and a tribute to Whedon's efforts.So when will DC\/Warner bring back talks of a \"Wonder Woman\" movie, do you think? 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