{"id":38640,"date":"2013-09-05T09:15:18","date_gmt":"2013-09-05T15:15:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/05\/who-thought-selling-the-saudis-cluster-bombs-was-a-good-idea.html"},"modified":"2013-09-05T09:15:18","modified_gmt":"2013-09-05T15:15:18","slug":"who-thought-selling-the-saudis-cluster-bombs-was-a-good-idea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/05\/who-thought-selling-the-saudis-cluster-bombs-was-a-good-idea.html","title":{"rendered":"Who thought selling the Saudis cluster bombs was a good idea?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">At a time when the US is deciding whether to punish Syria for use of chemical weapons, and has previously condemned Syrian use of cluster bombs, the State Dept announcing a cluster bomb sale to Saudi Arabia is &#8230; poorly timed.<\/p>\n<p>And, yes, I understand the difference between chemical weapons vs &quot;conventional&quot; munitions, and the difference between cluster bombs used on civilian targets vs in a military conflict. \u00a0I also understand that Saudi Arabia doesn&#39;t really seem to have much need for cluster bombs right now, that the US stand on cluster munitions is in a minority in the world, and this is really just incredibly tone-deaf.<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/mEOA6VkbylOIdHoWqez9dMg3nOO2nHGR20SYLWPdw2kuhEx_ZDzPzzVK0LOdwd6adNsKauydD4WmVWxENwLPqOf5O8ekQdlBG6D_ITw2lgZ_c3ICRRhd_foOXaCiFikLrys8mgLt=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.ipsnews.net\/2013\/08\/u-s-selling-cluster-bombs-worth-641-million-to-saudi-arabia\/'>IPS \u2013 U.S. Selling Cluster Bombs Worth 641 Million to Saudi Arabia | Inter Press Service<\/a><br \/>\n                                                U.S. Selling Cluster Bombs Worth 641 Million to Saudi Arabia &#8211; Arms control advocates are decrying a new U.S. Department of Defence announcement that it will be building and selling 1,300 cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia, worth some 641 million dollars. The munitions at the heart of the sale are techni\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/dMGzbMMTFdb' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At a time when the US is deciding whether to punish Syria for use of chemical weapons, and has previously condemned Syrian use of cluster bombs, the State Dept announcing a cluster bomb sale to Saudi Arabia is &#8230; poorly timed. And, yes, I understand the difference between chemical weapons vs &quot;conventional&quot; munitions, and the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/05\/who-thought-selling-the-saudis-cluster-bombs-was-a-good-idea.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Who thought selling the Saudis cluster bombs was a good idea?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38640","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":23985,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/22\/we-dont-need-another-cluster.html","url_meta":{"origin":38640,"position":0},"title":"We don&#39;t need another cluster","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 22-Nov-11 5:03pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I know there are some very cool military advantages to using cluster munitions. 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