{"id":39049,"date":"2013-10-04T10:07:49","date_gmt":"2013-10-04T16:07:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/04\/the-pledge-of-allegiance-and-the-persistent-appetite-for-orthodox.html"},"modified":"2013-10-09T06:01:31","modified_gmt":"2013-10-09T12:01:31","slug":"the-pledge-of-allegiance-and-the-persistent-appetite-for-orthodox","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/04\/the-pledge-of-allegiance-and-the-persistent-appetite-for-orthodox.html","title":{"rendered":"The Pledge of Allegiance and the &#8220;Persistent Appetite for Orthodoxy&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\"><b>The Pledge of Allegiance and the &quot;Persistent Appetite for Orthodox&quot;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Tribalism is a hard habit to break, or even tame. Tribes demand common clothing, common rituals, common oaths, common symbols. \u00a0And woe betide any nail that stands up; it will certainly get hammered down.<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.popehat.com\/2013\/10\/03\/the-persistent-appetite-for-orthodoxy\/'>The Persistent Appetite For Orthodoxy<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Seventy-three years ago, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Americans could be forced to recite a loyalty oath to the nation. In Minersville School District v. 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