{"id":39088,"date":"2013-10-07T23:51:02","date_gmt":"2013-10-08T05:51:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/07\/a-scout-oath-for-atheists-in-the-uk.html"},"modified":"2013-10-09T05:49:20","modified_gmt":"2013-10-09T11:49:20","slug":"a-scout-oath-for-atheists-in-the-uk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/07\/a-scout-oath-for-atheists-in-the-uk.html","title":{"rendered":"A Scout Oath for Atheists &#8230; in the UK"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">It seems to me that, within certain bounds, there is more value in engaging a broader audience than in maintaining some sort of ideological purity. \u00a0Unfortunately, it seems like the Boy Scouts in the US are seen more as an exemplar of True Americanism, and thus get entangled in issues that are more conservatively ideological than &#8212; well &#8212; helpful to boys.<\/p>\n<p>I have to wonder: for those in the US who are aghast at non-religious UK Scouts being able to promise to &quot;uphold our scout values&quot; rather than &quot;do my duty to God&quot; &#8230; is that more or less of an issue than UK scounts swearing to &quot;do my duty to the Queen&quot;? \u00a0And why?<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/UZiGSrqMW22lPJLeub4wxoxq21Zyaq_kkGSa257efUd7BBfOrTjN4NvMog-VtAd567hgsJZISkrq9pQ7pMZVou-Yloj7xQuS6NUPTtri2uk8egqIhCHpk6VZL9lmCDPs1mE=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/education-24434510'>Scouts announce promise for atheists<\/a><\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/8j9gdSMdC6b' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It seems to me that, within certain bounds, there is more value in engaging a broader audience than in maintaining some sort of ideological purity. \u00a0Unfortunately, it seems like the Boy Scouts in the US are seen more as an exemplar of True Americanism, and thus get entangled in issues that are more conservatively ideological &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/10\/07\/a-scout-oath-for-atheists-in-the-uk.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Scout Oath for Atheists &#8230; in the UK&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,378],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-intolerance-persecution"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":33299,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/04\/19\/boy-scouts-compromise-on-gay-membership-kinda.html","url_meta":{"origin":39088,"position":0},"title":"Boy Scouts compromise on gay membership &#8230; kinda","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 19-Apr-13 2:32pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's not often that I agree with Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council. 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