{"id":39716,"date":"2013-11-14T13:57:06","date_gmt":"2013-11-14T20:57:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/we-could-tell-you-but-then-they-would-have-to-kill-us.html"},"modified":"2013-11-14T13:57:06","modified_gmt":"2013-11-14T20:57:06","slug":"we-could-tell-you-but-then-they-would-have-to-kill-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/we-could-tell-you-but-then-they-would-have-to-kill-us.html","title":{"rendered":"We could tell you, but then they would have to kill us"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Google offers up the number of criminal justice requests for user information. They&#39;d offer up the number of national security requests, but that number is, for some reason, a <i>secret.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Given that the Bad Guys know it&#39;s going on and act accordingly, one has to wonder from whom that secret is being kept.<\/p>\n<p>(h\/t <span class=\"proflinkWrapper\"><span class=\"proflinkPrefix\">+<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/103748887870095862080\" class=\"proflink\" oid=\"103748887870095862080\">Les Jenkins<\/a><\/span>\u00a0)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/116899029375914044550'>Google<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We just updated our Transparency Report, showing how many requests Google gets for information about its users. But we&#39;re not allowed to give the full story because the U.S. government says that requests under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) must be kept secret. We can tell you this: Requests have more than doubled around the world since 2009, and more than tripled in the U.S.:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/g.co\/u5sp\" class=\"ot-anchor\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/g.co\/u5sp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Share this if you believe you have a right to know what our governments are up to.\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class='gpb-photo-primary'><img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-2kvs-BLjKuU\/UoTn8QrxeuI\/AAAAAAABkS8\/8KqKTgqAXjw\/google_transparencyreport_share_us_redacted_js10.png?imgmax=1600' border='0' style='max-width:100%;' \/><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/JSvcrk5MGcx' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Google offers up the number of criminal justice requests for user information. They&#39;d offer up the number of national security requests, but that number is, for some reason, a secret. Given that the Bad Guys know it&#39;s going on and act accordingly, one has to wonder from whom that secret is being kept. (h\/t +Les &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/we-could-tell-you-but-then-they-would-have-to-kill-us.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;We could tell you, but then they would have to kill us&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39716","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":39728,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/15\/too-many-secrets-marty-4.html","url_meta":{"origin":39716,"position":0},"title":"&quot;Too many secrets, Marty.&quot;","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 15-Nov-13 8:24am","format":false,"excerpt":"'It\u2019s one thing for the government to argue that these statistics need to be kept secret. It\u2019s another for the government to claim that it can\u2019t reveal its rationale for why this data should be kept from the public.'And all it does is build the sense that it's simply because\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":132796,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/02\/07\/the-restricted-freedom-of-limited-information-act.html","url_meta":{"origin":39716,"position":1},"title":"The Restricted Freedom of Limited Information Act","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 7-Feb-17 10:51pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The FBI has decided that accepted Freedom of Information Act requests by email is too ... um ... Difficult? Time-consuming? Irritating? 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