{"id":39719,"date":"2013-11-14T15:30:29","date_gmt":"2013-11-14T22:30:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/what-are-they-putting-in-the-water-up-there-in-wisconsin.html"},"modified":"2013-11-14T15:30:29","modified_gmt":"2013-11-14T22:30:29","slug":"what-are-they-putting-in-the-water-up-there-in-wisconsin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/what-are-they-putting-in-the-water-up-there-in-wisconsin.html","title":{"rendered":"What are they putting in the water up there in Wisconsin?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Really? \u00a0The GOP-dominated state legislature really has nothing better to do than debate a bill that \u00a0would prohibit employers (like, say, hospitals) from requiring their employees to get flu shots, or even to wear face masks?<\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;Rep. Jeremy Theisfeldt wrote Assembly Bill 247 after he said a hospital employee lost her job over flu shot mandates. \u201cI&#39;m standing for the freedom of individuals to be able to reasonably determine their own healthcare and not to have sacrificed their livelihood to do so,\u201d Theisfeldt said.&#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>You keep using that word &quot;reasonably&quot; &#8212; I do not think it means what you think it means. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In other words, your freedom to determine your own healthcare ends where the germs and viruses you&#39;re &quot;freely&quot; carrying around impact the health of others, <i>particularly<\/i> in a healthcare setting where health and \u00a0immune systems are already compromised.<\/p>\n<p>The eighteenth century may have been a great era for theories about personal liberty. It wasn&#39;t a great era for medical care. \u00a0I&#39;m not sure an idealized desire to return to those days in search of the former warrants returning to those days in the sense of the latter.<\/p>\n<p>Next up: &quot;I&#39;m unconvinced that washing my hands doesn&#39;t allow the devil to slip into my body, so &#8230;&quot;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/eHWu630UgcdpvXfi3v_BuatoE9ofAkz5C4G-BGvw1ucc4PYuYiTp0HBCa2lg-zWnWqi2JOXvsC3HRr-csDwbqMEjcoBcgV9fgnZ-hp158-9YMg3jcp3pGLJQnwox_htfM1GyaCX2UJZpCBcurcsm-UI=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.channel3000.com\/news\/flu-shot-or-fired-bill-prohibits-those-vaccine-mandates-at-work\/-\/1648\/22967376\/-\/5kcqqb\/-\/index.html'>Flu shot or fired? Bill prohibits vaccine mandates at work<\/a><\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/buFYofm2PJc' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Really? \u00a0The GOP-dominated state legislature really has nothing better to do than debate a bill that \u00a0would prohibit employers (like, say, hospitals) from requiring their employees to get flu shots, or even to wear face masks? &#39;Rep. Jeremy Theisfeldt wrote Assembly Bill 247 after he said a hospital employee lost her job over flu shot &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/what-are-they-putting-in-the-water-up-there-in-wisconsin.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;What are they putting in the water up there in Wisconsin?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39719","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":134791,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/20\/unfortunately-days-onion-hits-far-close-truth.html","url_meta":{"origin":39719,"position":0},"title":"Unfortunately, there are days when &#8220;The Onion&#8221; hits far too close to the truth","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 20-Sep-17 3:09pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Sigh. 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Advocates for children\u2019s health started worrying months ago that congressional incompetence would jeopardize the nation\u2019s one indisputable healthcare success \u2014 the Children\u2019s Health Insurance\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/unnamed-27.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":134679,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/13\/primer-single-payer-healthcare.html","url_meta":{"origin":39719,"position":4},"title":"A Primer on Single-Payer Healthcare","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 13-Sep-17 8:21am","format":false,"excerpt":"Since this is becoming a more and more prominent topic, here's a good summary of what \"single-payer\" means (and what it doesn't mean). 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