{"id":40331,"date":"2014-01-07T10:16:17","date_gmt":"2014-01-07T17:16:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/07\/security-scandals-then-and-now.html"},"modified":"2014-01-08T08:18:37","modified_gmt":"2014-01-08T15:18:37","slug":"security-scandals-then-and-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/07\/security-scandals-then-and-now.html","title":{"rendered":"Security scandals, then and now"},"content":{"rendered":"
I think, from what we know to date, that one can draw a distinction between the FBI's actions in the 60s-70s and the "homeland security" (esp. NSA) activities today. (From what we know to date.) \u00a0There's no single point of tyranny as Hoover provided, and I haven't heard (or aren't recalling) any particular abuses of the domestic intelligence that the NSA has pulled together in the way that Hoover's FBI acted.<\/p>\n

Of course, the FBI is now a "national security" agency primarily, not a "law enforcement" agency, so there's certain room for a further spiral out of control again. \u00a0And the FBI under Hoover provides an object lesson of what a security\/enforcement agency without oversight or public visibility to its actions can do in the wrong hands (or even in the right hands). \u00a0The NSA is not the Hoover FBI, but Hoover's FBI provides a cautionary tale of why we should be worried by pervasive surveillance, whether it's currently being abused or not. \u00a0Because, rest assured, it will be.\ufeff<\/p><\/div>\n

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The Secret Burglary That Exposed J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI<\/a>
\n A new book reveals who stole files about the FBI’s domestic surveillance abuses in 1971.\n <\/p>\n

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I think, from what we know to date, that one can draw a distinction between the FBI's actions in the 60s-70s and the "homeland security" (esp. NSA) activities today. (From what we know to date.) \u00a0There's no single point of tyranny as Hoover provided, and I haven't heard (or aren't recalling) any particular abuses of … Continue reading “Security scandals, then and now”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17,132],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40331","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","category-privacy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":51777,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/18\/tales-calculated-to-drive-you-hoover.html","url_meta":{"origin":40331,"position":0},"title":"Tales Calculated to Drive You Hoover","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 18-Jul-15 10:11am","format":false,"excerpt":"Fun little article on how Mad Magazine repeatedly tweaked J Edgar Hoover, whose FBI not only held ever-growing files on publisher William Gaines, but kept sending people over to the magazine's offices to \"firmly and severely admonish them concerning our displeasure\" over their satire in an iconoclastic vein.The remarkable thing\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":43408,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/09\/im-shocked-shocked-to-find-surveillance-overreach-going-on-here.html","url_meta":{"origin":40331,"position":1},"title":"I'm shocked, shocked to find surveillance overreach going on here","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 9-Jul-14 2:29pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Remember how FISA and all of that was put in so that things like the FBI spying on civil rights lawyers and activists couldn't happen in secret? 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