{"id":40835,"date":"2014-01-20T21:21:02","date_gmt":"2014-01-21T04:21:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/20\/marriage-101.html"},"modified":"2014-11-06T07:25:38","modified_gmt":"2014-11-06T14:25:38","slug":"marriage-101","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/20\/marriage-101.html","title":{"rendered":"Marriage 101"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">I&#39;m sympathetic to the idea, truly, but even if it were the most effective and useful education in the world, I&#39;m not thrilled about setting a legal precedent to the state adding further requirements before people can marry.<\/p>\n<p>I do like the idea of providing <i>incentives<\/i> for doing so, but as a mandatory requirement? Nah.<\/p>\n<p>Also, not sure why civil unions would be exempted.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/111267716732125387127'>The Denver Post<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As if getting married wasn&#39;t complicated enough, a proposed ballot initiative would require mandatory pre-wedding education before couples could say &quot;I do.&quot; The proposed Colorado Marriage Education Act calls for 10 hours of pre-wedding marriage education for first-timers, 20 hours for those marrying a second time and 30 hours for those going for their third try. The law would not apply to civil unions.\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/5E304haFWQotsteaGRiVrsRpjBr2XxQIQrGw2BEVRs1XivVHo2zQQHZ3YTMa9BmqdZ9zyNvfQCY7gl672oYaNIk1JroquhTs75QWNMoIn9v07Nv-BA-CJRWeE-4tyZ0Pxq3Ga4C4=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/politics\/ci_24947255\/colorado-ballot-measure-proposes-education-classes-marry'>Colorado ballot measure proposes education classes to marry<\/a><br \/>\n                                                As if getting married wasn&#8217;t complicated enough, a  proposed ballot initiative would require mandatory pre-wedding education before couples could say &#8220;I do.\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/7oEQUCUfqzR' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#39;m sympathetic to the idea, truly, but even if it were the most effective and useful education in the world, I&#39;m not thrilled about setting a legal precedent to the state adding further requirements before people can marry. I do like the idea of providing incentives for doing so, but as a mandatory requirement? Nah. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/20\/marriage-101.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Marriage 101&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,14,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40835","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-love-and-marriage","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":31542,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/29\/civil-unions-that-seems-so-2005.html","url_meta":{"origin":40835,"position":0},"title":"Civil Unions? 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