{"id":4118,"date":"2003-02-03T13:47:57","date_gmt":"2003-02-03T18:47:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=4118"},"modified":"2003-02-03T13:47:57","modified_gmt":"2003-02-03T18:47:57","slug":"motes_and_beams","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/02\/03\/motes_and_beams.html","title":{"rendered":"Motes and beams"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting observation on <a title=\"Ah, Those Principled Europeans\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2003\/02\/02\/opinion\/02FRIE.html\">European attitudes<\/a>, in at least one area:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Last week I went to lunch at the Hotel Schweizerhof in Davos, Switzerland, and discovered why America and Europe are at odds. At the bottom of the lunch menu was a list of the countries that the lamb, beef and chicken came from. But next to the meat imported from the U.S. was a tiny asterisk, which warned that it might contain genetically modified organisms &#8212; G.M.O.&#8217;s.<br \/>\nMy initial patriotic instinct was to order the U.S. beef and ask for it &#8220;tartare,&#8221; just for spite. But then I and my lunch guest just looked at each other and had a good laugh. How quaint! we said. Europeans, out of some romantic rebellion against America and high technology, were shunning U.S.-grown food containing G.M.O.&#8217;s &#8212; even though there is no scientific evidence that these are harmful. But practically everywhere we went in Davos, Europeans were smoking cigarettes &#8212; with their meals, coffee or conversation &#8212; even though there is indisputable scientific evidence that smoking can kill you. In fact, I got enough secondhand smoke just dining in Europe last week to make me want to have a chest X-ray.<\/p>\n<p>The author, Thomas Friedman, says it&#8217;s more of a reaction to relative powerlessness, than principle, and offers some other examples (the stance on Iraq) as further proof, as well as this interesting thought:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">&#8220;Power corrupts, but so does weakness,&#8221; said Josef Joffe, editor of Germany&#8217;s Die Zeit newspaper. &#8220;And absolute weakness corrupts absolutely. We are now living through the most critical watershed of the postwar period, with enormous moral and strategic issues at stake, and the only answer many Europeans offer is to constrain and contain American power. So by default they end up on the side of Saddam, in an intellectually corrupt position.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.instapundit.com\/archives\/007233.php\">InstaPundit<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting observation on European attitudes, in at least one area: Last week I went to lunch at the Hotel Schweizerhof in Davos, Switzerland, and discovered why America and Europe&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[10,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4118","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-science"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":27024,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/10\/pope-presses-u-s-bishops-to-be-less-popular.html","url_meta":{"origin":4118,"position":0},"title":"Pope Presses U.S. Bishops to be Less Popular","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 10-Mar-12 10:03am","format":false,"excerpt":"Y'know, if it were just a message of teaching, that would be one thing. 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