{"id":41992,"date":"2014-05-15T15:00:34","date_gmt":"2014-05-15T21:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/15\/exclusivity-does-not-equal-piety.html"},"modified":"2014-05-16T13:03:53","modified_gmt":"2014-05-16T19:03:53","slug":"exclusivity-does-not-equal-piety","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/15\/exclusivity-does-not-equal-piety.html","title":{"rendered":"Exclusivity does not equal piety"},"content":{"rendered":"
'If the Bible-compromising profs want to go, let them go. Good riddance. They applied knowing what the college believes\u2026. If the professors love the world more than the Lord, let them go to the disgraced halls of secularism where terrorists are praised, where sexual orgies are promoted, and where conservatives are shouted down in the name of "free speech." If the profs go, the lines are drawn. Then we can debate them as secularists on the evidence. […]\u00a0Let them toss their Bibles into the trash and show their true loyalty to Darwin-Baal. Better that than have them pretend to ascribe to "Christ above all."'<\/i><\/p>\n

It seems to me that the more you delineate acceptable specific beliefs\u00a0(religious, political) to be included in the group, the more you set yourself up for being marginalized and finally end up all by yourself (see also the World's Funniest Religious Joke\u00a0http:\/\/goo.gl\/aByl8J<\/a>).<\/p>\n

It seems to me that there are folks who see religion as being primarily about doctrine — believing a particular creed, form, law, writing — and there are folks who see religion as being primarily about teach and promoting moral\u00a0behavior. It's more complicated than that, in my opinion\u00a0(see also\u00a0James 2:14-20), but I find that the more heavily people rely on doctrine as the arbiter of who's a good, acceptable, in-group person, the greater the chance they are to be more interested in making man to be for the Sabbath, not the Sabbath for man. And when it comes to Scripture, the more literal folks try to take the Bible as a fundamental of the True Faith, the more brittle a faith they are erecting, setting themselves up for whole edifice to shatter.<\/p>\n

Also, allow me to note that, despite being a theistic evolutionist, I've never been invited to any orgies, nor ever\u00a0tossed my Bible in the trash — though I have to say that "Darwin-Baal" is almost certainly going to be the name of my next Christian Rock cover band.\ufeff<\/p><\/div>\n

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A Creationist Schism Is Tearing Apart A Christian College<\/a>
\n The evolution-creationism debate has returned to Dayton, Tennessee\u2014the site of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Except this time, the venue is not a courtroom but a Christian college, where faculty members have resigned and students have mounted protests. The issue? Whether Adam and Eve were the progenitors of humanity.\n <\/p>\n

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'If the Bible-compromising profs want to go, let them go. Good riddance. They applied knowing what the college believes\u2026. 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