{"id":42059,"date":"2014-05-19T07:52:01","date_gmt":"2014-05-19T13:52:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/i-hate-to-wave-around-terms-like-police-state.html"},"modified":"2014-05-19T13:47:41","modified_gmt":"2014-05-19T19:47:41","slug":"i-hate-to-wave-around-terms-like-police-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/i-hate-to-wave-around-terms-like-police-state.html","title":{"rendered":"I hate to wave around terms like &quot;police state&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">But sometimes the shoe \u00a0really starts looking like it fits.<\/p>\n<p>Or, put another way, I do not believe that there is any device or technology that a local, civil police force should be using that cannot or should not be publicly known and understood.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/103748887870095862080'>Les Jenkins<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Well this is disconcerting and right here in my home state. I grew up in Oakland County and while I now live in Washtenaw, I still visit Oakland County every so often to see family and friends. I wouldn&#39;t necessarily be opposed to this tech if I had a clue what it does and what they&#39;re using it for, but the secrecy surrounding it raises a lot of red flags.\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/xtZrlaDHR4xqFAD6LQYHgQx1nMUTMWtb_Ira6t3YKZ6F8XvDDw2YpNIrjZ9wsdBQS3T7TGin3qkT5VlIUmDWCJIaVRqvowScRuVQ3EAJCqse6LQN=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/pontiactribune.com\/?p=214'>Secret Military Device \u2018Hailstorm\u2019 Used By Michigan Police, FOIA Request By Detroit News Denied | The Pontiac Tribune<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Imagine\u00a0if you will, cruising\u00a0down Woodward Avenue all smiles and sunshine until you see it; that red, white and blue flicker in your rear-view mir\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/EhXLcRjH4uE' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>But sometimes the shoe \u00a0really starts looking like it fits. Or, put another way, I do not believe that there is any device or technology that a local, civil police force should be using that cannot or should not be publicly known and understood.\u00a0 Reshared post from +Les Jenkins Well this is disconcerting and right &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/i-hate-to-wave-around-terms-like-police-state.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I hate to wave around terms like &quot;police state&quot;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17,132],"tags":[586],"class_list":["post-42059","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","category-privacy","tag-pluspost"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":25380,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/13\/a-refreshingly-positive-story-about-police-accountability.html","url_meta":{"origin":42059,"position":0},"title":"A refreshingly positive story about police accountability","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 13-Jan-12 1:41pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's illegal (in California, at least) for a police officer to cover their badge or otherwise hide their identity, for obvious reasons. 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