{"id":42090,"date":"2014-05-19T22:47:19","date_gmt":"2014-05-20T04:47:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/not-all-not-all-men-arguments-are-wrong.html"},"modified":"2014-05-20T11:42:11","modified_gmt":"2014-05-20T17:42:11","slug":"not-all-not-all-men-arguments-are-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/not-all-not-all-men-arguments-are-wrong.html","title":{"rendered":"Not All &quot;Not All Men&quot; Arguments Are Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Describe things as statistics, majorities, empirical evidence of preponderance, that&#39;s a legit argument that needs to be addressed and dealt with honestly. Frame things as just &quot;men&quot; or &quot;you men&quot; and &quot;you (as a man)&quot; or just &quot;you,&quot; and if I don&#39;t think it&#39;s accurate about <i>me<\/i> I&#39;ll probably make this counter.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, &quot;not all men&quot; can be a cop-out, or a distraction, or an attempt to derail or control a conversation. It can also be a legitimate challenge to the premises of an argument.\ufeff<\/p><\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='overflow:hidden;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh6.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/HpGx00K0ULfyPGzYMnQdyYBZ7WYLbQ6xyVln8dQQdYcTa-htwPSMuKT3Zl7hqeDP-K-N0zhK1KTGTZEmoJO56oKfIT2UtiivxCTNTab0nqeR6a1momSAiUNAX7jeSXup02kmoaP87zsj=w506-h303' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.vox.com\/2014\/5\/15\/5720332\/heres-why-women-have-turned-the-not-all-men-objection-into-a-meme'>Here&#8217;s why women have turned the &#8220;not all men&#8221; objection into a meme<\/a><br \/>\n                                                In the past few weeks the use of &#8220;not all men&#8221; has skyrocketed. Here&#8217;s what the meme means.\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/CK9QTJvyKJz' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Describe things as statistics, majorities, empirical evidence of preponderance, that&#39;s a legit argument that needs to be addressed and dealt with honestly. Frame things as just &quot;men&quot; or &quot;you men&quot; and &quot;you (as a man)&quot; or just &quot;you,&quot; and if I don&#39;t think it&#39;s accurate about me I&#39;ll probably make this counter. Yes, &quot;not all &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/19\/not-all-not-all-men-arguments-are-wrong.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Not All &quot;Not All Men&quot; Arguments Are Wrong&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,348,8],"tags":[586],"class_list":["post-42090","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-women","category-zt-pc","tag-pluspost"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":129844,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/02\/15\/funny-hadnt-heard-this-argument-about-replacing-scalia-yet.html","url_meta":{"origin":42090,"position":0},"title":"Funny, hadn&#039;t heard this argument about replacing Scalia yet","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 15-Feb-16 12:45pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Given all the political events that the Right tends to attribute to God, why not this one?(I jest, of course ... but why not?) 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