{"id":42436,"date":"2014-06-07T14:59:34","date_gmt":"2014-06-07T20:59:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/07\/tribalism-and-the-bilateralism-of-rights.html"},"modified":"2014-06-08T14:40:48","modified_gmt":"2014-06-08T20:40:48","slug":"tribalism-and-the-bilateralism-of-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/07\/tribalism-and-the-bilateralism-of-rights.html","title":{"rendered":"Tribalism and the bilateralism of\u00a0rights"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">There are times I have to sadly assume that the urge for <i>Us vs Them<\/i> is somehow riveted into our genetic code, right next to the part where our sex hormones turn off our brains and the part where we can&#39;t societally plan for anything further out than five years.<\/p>\n<p>How else to explain people who get all up in your face about their rights, about how they are disadvantaged and downtrodden and have been historically hurt by others, who then turn around and act like assholes to everyone else.<\/p>\n<p>Respect, and rights, and freedom are all two way streets, guys (and, yes, gals). Caring about the injustices done to you and waving off the injustices done to other is not only blind, it&#39;s counter-productive.<\/p>\n<p>So, yes, guys, men do have some special problems in our society. Can we acknowledge that and work to change it without denying that others have their own special problems that should also be addressed &#8212; problems that maybe we have, wittingly or unwittingly, contributed to? \u00a0And can we do it without suddenly turning all women into lying shrews and castrating lesbians who deserve whatever&#39;s done to them because &quot;WE&#39;RE NUMBER ONE! WE&#39;RE NUMBER ONE!&quot;?<\/p>\n<p>Please?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/102356721871221463140'>George Wiman<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If you&#39;ve peeked out from under the rock lately, you know there&#39;s a thing going on with Twitter and Facebook and G+ using the hashtag <a rel=\"nofollow\" class=\"ot-hashtag\" href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/s\/%23YesAllWomen\">#YesAllWomen<\/a>, about the awful treatment practically all women have experienced. Not from all men, in case you want to jump in and say &quot;Not me!&quot; but from too many men. Often from men who identify with something called the MRM, or Men&#39;s Rights Movement. Many of whom infest the forums of the gaming world.<\/p>\n<p>Except the makers of the role-playing game <b>Eclipse Phase<\/b> told them to go away; &quot;We don&#39;t need you&quot;. \u00a0Which inspired novelist Chuck Wendig to say something similar: go away, MRAs. I am posting his missive here because of a parenthetical comment about balls as a sign of toughness and a vagina as a sign of weakness. That paragraph alone is worth the read&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/terribleminds.com\/ramble\/2014\/05\/29\/burning-the-mra-playbook-or-yesallmras\/\">http:\/\/terribleminds.com\/ramble\/2014\/05\/29\/burning-the-mra-playbook-or-yesallmras\/<\/a>\u00a0\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/suC7GCJHse32xW4W5Ck113lPdcxC4wlf8skLoDI6GC2F3-6IW1IyaNaYkfizLakwiMLpDrymAfA99ok2Hxme59OfZeKru1GicG0wSaMK=w120-h120' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/terribleminds.com\/ramble\/2014\/05\/29\/burning-the-mra-playbook-or-yesallmras'>Burning The MRA Playbook (Or, #YesAllMRAs)<\/a><br \/>\n                                                The other day I wrote this thing &#8212; &#8220;Not All Men, But Still Too Many Men&#8221; &#8212; with the goal of pointing folks toward the #YesAllWomen hashtag on Twitter, where women talked about their stories, expe&#8230;\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/DVtGD8gSZWn' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are times I have to sadly assume that the urge for Us vs Them is somehow riveted into our genetic code, right next to the part where our sex hormones turn off our brains and the part where we can&#39;t societally plan for anything further out than five years. How else to explain people &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/07\/tribalism-and-the-bilateralism-of-rights.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Tribalism and the bilateralism of\u00a0rights&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,350,100,348],"tags":[586,627],"class_list":["post-42436","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-civil-liberties","category-dolts","category-women","tag-pluspost","tag-yesallwomen"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":130330,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/03\/29\/dealing-with-the-real-world-is-hard.html","url_meta":{"origin":42436,"position":0},"title":"Dealing with the Real World is HARD","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 29-Mar-16 7:23am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Real World is complicated. 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