{"id":43316,"date":"2014-07-02T09:57:20","date_gmt":"2014-07-02T15:57:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/02\/or-perhaps-a-kinder-gentler-religious-discrimination.html"},"modified":"2014-07-02T17:54:18","modified_gmt":"2014-07-02T23:54:18","slug":"or-perhaps-a-kinder-gentler-religious-discrimination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/02\/or-perhaps-a-kinder-gentler-religious-discrimination.html","title":{"rendered":"Or perhaps a kinder, gentler religious discrimination"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">It might be difficult for &quot;pious&quot; closely-held family corporations to out-and-out discriminate against hiring or retaining gay employees. But I&#39;d be willing to be there are at least five SCOTUS justices who would see the below example as something perfectly allowable as part of the protection of corporate religious beliefs. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>E.g., &quot;We love Bob, he&#39;s a great employee, and, of course, his being gay in no way impacts his work. But we simply cannot countenance our corporate funds going to support his immoral &#39;marriage&#39; without feeling that we&#39;re being compelled to violate our religious beliefs.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/108555450575596865153'>J Caprioli<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the wake of the Hobby Lobby decision, I&#39;m now waiting for the floodgates to open of employers attempting to deny spousal benefits to same sex couples because same sex marriage violates their religious beliefs. What a Pandora&#39;s box the Supreme Court has opened.\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/Toh8h27rfTk' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It might be difficult for &quot;pious&quot; closely-held family corporations to out-and-out discriminate against hiring or retaining gay employees. But I&#39;d be willing to be there are at least five SCOTUS justices who would see the below example as something perfectly allowable as part of the protection of corporate religious beliefs. \u00a0 E.g., &quot;We love Bob, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/02\/or-perhaps-a-kinder-gentler-religious-discrimination.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Or perhaps a kinder, gentler religious discrimination&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109,134,348],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43316","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","category-health-care","category-women"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":30356,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/26\/corporate-conscience.html","url_meta":{"origin":43316,"position":0},"title":"Corporate conscience","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 26-Sep-12 12:28pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I've weighed in previously on the irksome idea that pharmacists can dictate what services and medications someone can access, based on their personal conscience (i.e., a pharmacist's moral beliefs trumps those of the person seeking that medication).What's more interesting \/ disturbing in this ruling is that it was applied to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":132691,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/01\/29\/but-some-religious-beliefs-are-more-equal-than-others.html","url_meta":{"origin":43316,"position":1},"title":"But some religious beliefs are more equal than others","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 29-Jan-17 5:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"You can't claim that your law is just about \"protecting religious freedom\" and \"protecting religious beliefs\" when you explicitly state in it[1] what beliefs are worthy of protection:.The sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this act are the belief or conviction that:(a) Marriage is or should be\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":136684,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/06\/04\/scotus-rules-in-favor-of-the-masterpiece-baker-sort-of.html","url_meta":{"origin":43316,"position":2},"title":"SCOTUS rules in favor of the &#8220;Masterpiece&#8221; baker. 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