{"id":44449,"date":"2014-08-18T21:51:35","date_gmt":"2014-08-19T03:51:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/18\/in-the-beginning-there-was-the-origin-story.html"},"modified":"2015-05-07T16:40:30","modified_gmt":"2015-05-07T22:40:30","slug":"in-the-beginning-there-was-the-origin-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/18\/in-the-beginning-there-was-the-origin-story.html","title":{"rendered":"In the Beginning, there was the Origin Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gpb-content\">Every super-hero tale starts with it, right? Spider-Man and the spider (and the bandit and Uncle Ben). Superman and Krypton and Ma &amp; Pa Kent. Tony Stark. The Incredible Hulk. The Shadow. Captain America. The Dark Knight. Green Lantern. The X-Men (First Class). Star-Lord.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#39;s not essential, if the story is told right. Tim Burton&#39;s Batman had some flashbacks to his parents&#39; death, but that&#39;s not how the movie started. The Brian Singer X-Men movies didn&#39;t start with how Professor X called together his original heroes. Yeah, we got Peter Quill as a kid, but we didn&#39;t actually see how he became Star-Lord. And we didn&#39;t have to see Li&#39;l Thor to understand who he was or where he came from. Indiana Jones didn&#39;t get an origin story until the third movie.<\/p>\n<p>The Origin Story is a classic super-hero trope, and understanding how protagonists arrive on screen (or in the initial written tale) is perfectly natural. But you can handle learning where a character came from in a variety of different ways, and learning as one goes along is a perfectly legitimate way to tell the story. Indeed, hinting at origins and letting the mystery unfold (to some degree) as you go along is sometimes even more effective (see: Black Widow).<\/p>\n<p>So, yeah, do we need a Doctor Strange movie to tell how Stephen became the Sorcerer Supreme? Do we need to see the Tony Stark-esque arc from false arrogance to legitimate arrogance? Do we need the Ancient One, and rival Mordo? No. It would be a fine story. But it can also be dispensed with, or referenced to in passing, or flashed back upon, or &#8230; whatever. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Find a story. Tell the story. Don&#39;t feel like you need to begin with the Prolog.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/112539429469437111274'>Curt Thompson<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I am so behind this idea. If the character\/concept is strong enough, people who don&#39;t follow comics will pick it up and run with it. And Doctor Strange isn&#39;t about his beginnings. It&#39;s about his funky life sealing off threats from the outer planes and training his apprentices.<\/p>\n<p>Then again, I&#39;m still holding out for the adventures of Wong (Dr. Strange&#39;s manservant, which isn&#39;t nearly as dirty as it sounds), Jarvis (the Avengers butler) and Danger (the X-Mansion&#39;s AI), so I may not be the best one to ask.\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class='gpb-article' style='clear:both;'>\n<div style='overflow:hidden;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n                                                    <img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/b0OHnSY6dcmfwMtQQp0y6J4TLzNS4aQIiWWVE2bKaZTSrUSx4LGposfsVC0Fm5aynIau3TJD5FHaJfsXTmD8q-FQe9eUCpUfpENp9CwFUk9CeMWu5Nk=w506-h303' border='0' \/>\n                                                <\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href='http:\/\/www.tor.com\/blogs\/2014\/08\/doctor-strange-origin-story'>Rumor Has It Doctor Strange Won\u2019t Be an Origin Story | Tor.com<\/a><br \/>\n                                                Will the Doctor Strange movie not bother with telling his origin story?\n                                            <\/p>\n<p class='gpb-links' style='clear:both;'> <a class='gpb-linkback' href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/M1dRSpccFm2' target='_new'>View this post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every super-hero tale starts with it, right? Spider-Man and the spider (and the bandit and Uncle Ben). Superman and Krypton and Ma &amp; Pa Kent. Tony Stark. The Incredible Hulk. The Shadow. Captain America. The Dark Knight. Green Lantern. The X-Men (First Class). Star-Lord. But it&#39;s not essential, if the story is told right. Tim &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/18\/in-the-beginning-there-was-the-origin-story.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;In the Beginning, there was the Origin Story&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,852,525,41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44449","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-dc-cinematic-univese","category-marvel-cinematic-universe","category-media-movies"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":9225,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/01\/18\/what_have_you_g.html","url_meta":{"origin":44449,"position":0},"title":"What have you got in your comic book box?","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 18-Jan-06 11:42pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I am still desperately behind on comics reading from being away on business trips and the holidays. 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