{"id":44685,"date":"2014-08-28T23:18:09","date_gmt":"2014-08-29T05:18:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/28\/misquoting-the-founding-fathers.html"},"modified":"2014-08-28T23:18:09","modified_gmt":"2014-08-29T05:18:09","slug":"misquoting-the-founding-fathers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/08\/28\/misquoting-the-founding-fathers.html","title":{"rendered":"(Mis)Quoting the Founding Fathers"},"content":{"rendered":"
So as much as I disagree politically, theologically, and probably ontologically with Mr. Hice, I will give him a passingly small pass here, given that misquoting, misattributing, and generally mangling or inventing quotations from the Founding Fathers is a veenrable American pastime.<\/p>\n

That said, if you're basing so much of your rhetoric on things you claim the Founders said, a person who really cared<\/i> about such things would actually try an confirm some of those items (heaven knows there are plenty of sources to try and do so online).<\/p>\n

And certainly if someone were to approach you and tell you that, y'know, Jefferson \/ Franklin \/ Washington never said such a thing, then I'd expect you would remove such rhetoric from your speeches, literature, etc. Issue a retraction, if you want to be really above-board, but at least stop using it. If, in fact, you care about what the Founders themselves said, not just what sounds good in a sound bite.\ufeff<\/p><\/div>\n

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Nearly Every Founding Fathers’ Quote Shared By A Likely Future Congressman Is Fake<\/a>
\n A future “constitutional conservative” member of Congress.\n <\/p>\n

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So as much as I disagree politically, theologically, and probably ontologically with Mr. Hice, I will give him a passingly small pass here, given that misquoting, misattributing, and generally mangling or inventing quotations from the Founding Fathers is a veenrable American pastime. That said, if you're basing so much of your rhetoric on things you … Continue reading “(Mis)Quoting the Founding Fathers”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44685","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":38894,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/09\/30\/its-what-the-founding-fathers-intended.html","url_meta":{"origin":44685,"position":0},"title":"It's What the Founding Fathers Intended!","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 30-Sep-13 8:27pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Scaring people into abandoning coverage? Shutting down the government? \u00a0Adams and Jefferson and Franklin would be proud of all that principled opposition to the Affordable Care Act!Reshared post from +Daily KosIt's what the founding fathers intended!See Tom Tomorrow's FULL SIZED COMIC HERE: http:\/\/bit.ly\/15FEbX9 View this post on Google+","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":129113,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/12\/14\/the-founding-fathers-and-islam.html","url_meta":{"origin":44685,"position":1},"title":"The Founding Fathers and Islam","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 14-Dec-15 12:57pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Islam and how proposals of religious freedom for the young America would affect Muslims (and other outr\u00e9 non-mainstream-Protestant believers like Jews and Catholics) came up repeatedly during the debates around the Constitution. 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Let's get rid of them all, and let the mob rule, just like the Founding Fathers intended! \u201cMosque\u201d Opposers Side With The\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Potpourri"","block_context":{"text":"Potpourri","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/potpourri"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":23564,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/08\/david-barton-is-a-dolt-short-form-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":44685,"position":5},"title":"David Barton is a Dolt (Short Form Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 8-Nov-11 9:23pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Since this article does as good a take-down as I would, I will simply point out that Barton's arguments have as much substance to them as if he'd suggested that since the Bible was printed on paper during the founding of the Republic, obviously the Constitution was modeled on it\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44685","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44685"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44685\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44685"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44685"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44685"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}