{"id":45303,"date":"2014-09-17T06:55:36","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T12:55:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/09\/17\/and-the-hobby-lobby-decision-ripples-along.html"},"modified":"2014-11-10T16:08:07","modified_gmt":"2014-11-10T23:08:07","slug":"and-the-hobby-lobby-decision-ripples-along","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/09\/17\/and-the-hobby-lobby-decision-ripples-along.html","title":{"rendered":"And the Hobby Lobby decision ripples along"},"content":{"rendered":"

And a federal judge extends the "religious faith trumps everything else" implications of the decision in yet another direction. Probably not egregious enough to nudge the SCOTUS justices from Hobby Lobby<\/i> toward a reconsideration … yet … but I strongly suspect over time these will build up until Scalia encounters an application of religious freedom that irritates even him.<\/p>\n

(Well, maybe we shouldn't wait for Scalia to be so irritated; that could take decades.)<\/p>\n

As Ulysses Grant said, in a similar vein, "I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution."<\/p>\n

Originally shared by +Jim Feig<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n

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#WTF<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nJudge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case<\/a><\/span>
\nThe court concluded that a cult member’s religious interest in staying silent should trump the nation’s interest in ensuring that we leave no stone unturned when investigating allegations of mass exploitation of children.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

And a federal judge extends the "religious faith trumps everything else" implications of the decision in yet another direction. Probably not egregious enough to nudge the SCOTUS justices from Hobby Lobby toward a reconsideration … yet … but I strongly suspect over time these will build up until Scalia encounters an application of religious freedom … Continue reading “And the Hobby Lobby decision ripples along”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109,715,110],"tags":[703],"class_list":["post-45303","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","category-crime-punishment","category-religious-zanies","tag-wtf"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43309,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/30\/the-hands-on-hands-off-supreme-court.html","url_meta":{"origin":45303,"position":0},"title":"The hands-on hands-off Supreme Court","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 30-Jun-14 10:05pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Remember when the Citizens United decision included majority opinions about how transparency would trump unfettered spending and an appearance of corruption? 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