{"id":45976,"date":"2014-10-16T14:57:46","date_gmt":"2014-10-16T20:57:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/10\/16\/stand-your-ground-is-for-me-not-thee.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T10:00:40","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T17:00:40","slug":"stand-your-ground-is-for-me-not-thee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/10\/16\/stand-your-ground-is-for-me-not-thee.html","title":{"rendered":"Stand Your Ground is for me, not thee"},"content":{"rendered":"

Because, well, it's totally reasonable<\/i> that a man's home is his castle and that if he thinks someone is threatening him or his, he ought to be able to pull out a gun and shoot them, rather than flee or lock the doors or call the police.<\/p>\n

But if a woman stabs her boyfriend when she fears for her life — well, that's a domestic dispute,<\/i> and we don't want the law to be interfering there, so we'll just say that "stand your ground" doesn't apply. <\/p>\n

Makes perfect sense, right?<\/p>\n

(Hypothetical, to control for other variables: Are the S Carolina prosecutors really saying that if a woman is standing in the doorway to her home, and someone is advancing on her menacingly, she can stand her ground and shoot said menace only if it's a stranger, not someone she knows or has had a relationship with? Really? Would the argue the same way if it was a man being menaced by a woman? Just trying to understand the [lack of] reasoning here.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nSouth Carolina has an expansive “stand your ground” law that paves the way for someone to get immunity from prosecution by declaring that they killed another person in self-defense. Liberals have been critical of these laws, arguing that they make it far too easy for violent people to deliberately provoke…\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Because, well, it's totally reasonable that a man's home is his castle and that if he thinks someone is threatening him or his, he ought to be able to pull out a gun and shoot them, rather than flee or lock the doors or call the police. 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