{"id":4734,"date":"2004-01-15T16:08:52","date_gmt":"2004-01-15T23:08:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=4734"},"modified":"2004-01-15T16:08:52","modified_gmt":"2004-01-15T23:08:52","slug":"when_do_we_say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/15\/when_do_we_say.html","title":{"rendered":"When do we say, “No”?"},"content":{"rendered":"

I touched on this a month or two back, but here’s a real example that will bring it to a head: to what extent does the US — in Iraq, on the ground — put its foot down about proposed legislation by Iraqi authorities<\/a>? And on what basis?<\/p>\n

About 100 Iraqi women led by a minister protested in central Baghdad against a Governing Council proposal to scrap the secular family affairs code and place it under Muslim religious jurisdiction.
\n[…] Iraq’s 1959 civil code governing family affairs was considered the most progressive in the Middle East, making polygamy difficult and guaranteeing women’s custody rights in the case of divorce.
\nSince 1991, Saddam’s secular regime made some changes to the code to bring it more in line with Muslim laws but its essence remained the same.<\/p>\n

Much of this has to do with the influence of (or pandering to) Shi’ite conservatives; Shi’ites as a whole are a majority of the population, and their clerics hold significant social power. <\/p>\n

The question is — and this is exclusive of how <\/i>we got into this situation — what should Paul Bremer do now<\/i>? In theory, he can veto anything the GC does. Does he torque off the clerics (and the GC) by throwing around that weight? Or does he accede to what in US eyes would be a regression to the mistreatment of women in many other neighboring Muslim countries? Does protecting democracy by protecting the half of the population that is women trump self-determination by the Governing Council? Which values are more important — and how much force (political, at least) is the US willing to employ over this point?<\/p>\n

This isn’t Afghanistan, where there’s an actual independent government. This isn’t Iran, or Saudi, where at best we just cluck our tongues and register protests over the treatment of women under sharia<\/i>. This is a place that is, in many ways, in our hands to recreate — or at least try to. Which values trump which here? If you were advising Paul Bremer (or George Bush), what would you<\/i> suggest?<\/p>\n

(via Roger L. Simon<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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