{"id":4742,"date":"2004-01-14T09:45:50","date_gmt":"2004-01-14T16:45:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=4742"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:24:13","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:24:13","slug":"and_it_is_us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/14\/and_it_is_us.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;&#8230; And it is us&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some thoughts about the &#8220;true&#8221; <a title=\"Lexington Herald-Leader | 01\/12\/2004 | Gay marriage inevitable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.kentucky.com\/mld\/heraldleader\/news\/opinion\/7676951.htm\">enemies of marriage<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Unfortunately, the conservative argument against gay marriage often reeks of hypocrisy. Our society stopped viewing marriage as a sacred (God-ordained) institution long ago. Since the invention of no-fault divorce laws, divorce rates have skyrocketed. Now, almost half of all marriages end in divorce.<br \/>\nEven in the conservative Christian community, divorce is rampant. As the only lawyer in my church (a very conservative Pentecostal congregation), I frequently receive telephone calls from fellow church members requesting assistance on child custody matters, property division and other divorce-related questions.<br \/>\nI have fielded so many questions about divorce that I am sometimes surprised when I encounter middle-aged congregants who have not been previously married. The gay community could not treat their marriage vows any worse than many Christians treat their own.<\/p>\n<p>RTWT.<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\/index.php?dish_inc=archives\/2004_01_11_dish_archive.html&#038;PHPSESSID=c1759921ce7d32c1cc7ea950404e4abb#107397268452285288\">Andrew Sullivan<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some thoughts about the &#8220;true&#8221; enemies of marriage. Unfortunately, the conservative argument against gay marriage often reeks of hypocrisy. Our society stopped viewing marriage as a sacred (God-ordained) institution long&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,718,46],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4742","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality","category-school-daze"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":40848,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/22\/bible-thumping-divorce-rates.html","url_meta":{"origin":4742,"position":0},"title":"Bible-thumping divorce rates","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 22-Jan-14 8:44am","format":false,"excerpt":"It appears that areas with more conservative Protestantism (defined as Biblical literalism) have to higher divorce rates, not lower as one might expect (or as religious conservatives \u00a0might expect).The issue is not with the religious teaching about divorce per se, but apparently other things being pushed by that cultural influence,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5570,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/02\/18\/more_of_that_ga.html","url_meta":{"origin":4742,"position":1},"title":"More of that gay marriage stuff","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 18-Feb-04 9:50pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Two articles from Julia: The first is from a conservative commentator who's even more dedicated to marriage as a moral imperative than I am -- and thus is adament that...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;LGBTQ &amp;c&quot;","block_context":{"text":"LGBTQ &amp;c","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/gay-stuff"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":131529,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/09\/13\/marriage-in-name-only.html","url_meta":{"origin":4742,"position":2},"title":"Marriage in Name Only","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 13-Sep-16 10:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"After the Supreme Court ruled in Obergefell that blocking gay couples from marrying was unconstitutional, the initial reaction from lawmakers in conservatives states was defiance. That's largely faded, but a new tactic has come onto the scene that's even more insidious, as exemplified in the story below.Rather than blocking gay\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":59,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/07\/03\/sanctity.html","url_meta":{"origin":4742,"position":3},"title":"Sanctity","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 3-Jul-03 11:20am","format":false,"excerpt":"Jeff Jacoby is unhappy with the prospect of gay marriage. In fact, it goes beyond unhappy. 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