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Sports is probably one of the pop culture thangs I am most decidedly least interested in. Still, the “Pete Rose comes kinda-clean”<\/a> story requries at least some comment.<\/p>\n

On the one hand … I think it’s wildly scummy of Rose to finally make this (partial) confession of having gambled on baseball back in the day — the sin that got him kicked out of the game — just as his first round of eligibility for getting into the Baseball Hall of Fame <\/a>is expiring. It strikes me as just the sort of opportunistic ploy that — wel, should make him ineligible for same.<\/p>\n

On the other hand, what are the criteria for benig elected to the BHOF? Well, after looking over the web site, I still don’t know. There are lots of rules for voting, but I didn’t see any sort of charter statement as to what the folks involved are voting for<\/i>. <\/p>\n

So, from a sheer talent kind of thing, yes, Pete Rose should be in there — as should “Shoeless” Joe Jackson, another ineligible member. <\/p>\n

But it’s not the Baseball Hall of Talent<\/i>. Arguably, Rose is in<\/i>famous for his violation of the cardinal rule of baseball play — Don’t Gamble. <\/p>\n

On the other hand, it’s been argued that there are plenty of other ot-very-nice fellows in the BHOF, and it should be based on contributions to the sport, not on sainthood.<\/p>\n

So does the Rose scandal net out a negative contribution? That would seem to be best decided by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America, who are the ones who do the electing (though Rose is running out of time for them; soon he’ll have to be elected instead by the Baseball Hall of Fame Committee on Baseball Veterans, who are thought to be a lot less sympathetic). But nobody can vote for him right now, because Rose, like Jackson, is on the baseball ineligible list, which he on for his only-now-somewhat-confessed gambling.<\/p>\n

Net? I don’t think he should be made eligible. He can be — and is — recognized as an outstanding player in the history of the game (even at the BHOF Museum), but keeping him off the BHOF roster seems a fitting punishment for his sins, particularly since they have not fully been confessed.<\/p>\n

But, then, what do I know about baseball?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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