{"id":47986,"date":"2014-11-12T08:08:17","date_gmt":"2014-11-12T15:08:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/11\/12\/as-the-repeal-obamacare-bandwagon-picks-up-speed.html"},"modified":"2014-11-12T08:08:17","modified_gmt":"2014-11-12T15:08:17","slug":"as-the-repeal-obamacare-bandwagon-picks-up-speed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/11\/12\/as-the-repeal-obamacare-bandwagon-picks-up-speed.html","title":{"rendered":"As the &quot;Repeal Obamacare&quot; bandwagon picks up speed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As the efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act take a serious lurch from &quot;Oh, look, more House GOP zaniness&quot; to &quot;Oh, look, now the GOP control both chambers,&quot; it&#39;s worth remembering something very simple: the ACA passed (and the general concept was talked about for <i>decades,<\/i> and a GOP\/conservative-developed plan actually <i>implemented)<\/i> because <b>more people die without health care coverage.<\/b>  And that needs to be a part of this debate.<\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;The fact that repealing Obamacare will kill some people does not settle the question of whether Obamacare is better than some imaginary alternative Republican health-care plan, or even whether it is better than the pre-reform status quo. Conservatives are within their rights to prefer freedom from taxes and regulation even at the cost of David Tedrow&rsquo;s well being. But any morally serious position has to account for the brutal realities embedded in this trade-off. &#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Any proposal that is made, any vote that is taken on this particular matter needs to at least ask the question, &quot;Are more people doing to die because of this?&quot;  If that&#39;s an acceptable trade-off, then make it so, but not even asking the question is being disingenuous.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2014\/11\/yes-republican-obamacare-plan-will-kill-people.html'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/fVoWZi1GRnyO1KvdixrtracX_ohRBNoG1KqkCZIhTdpCsrXs3HcYwbujK7t59LU8O7VJ47lmZneY5kROqTTV-ZRmfw0ZZnSDffB7XRhSIAEkC098fJH-z7iUnAJtoZcLFO2vYP0TJPRxEO8=w506-h303' border='0' \/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2014\/11\/yes-republican-obamacare-plan-will-kill-people.html'>Yes, the Republican Obamacare Strategy Will Kill People<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nMan points out repealing Obamacare will kill him; conservatives enraged.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/ZxBd8nwRxCm'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As the efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act take a serious lurch from &quot;Oh, look, more House GOP zaniness&quot; to &quot;Oh, look, now the GOP control both chambers,&quot; it&#39;s worth remembering something very simple: the ACA passed (and the general concept was talked about for decades, and a GOP\/conservative-developed plan actually implemented) because more &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/11\/12\/as-the-repeal-obamacare-bandwagon-picks-up-speed.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;As the &quot;Repeal Obamacare&quot; bandwagon picks up speed&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47986","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":134596,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/07\/just-case-missed-gop-trying-repeal-aca.html","url_meta":{"origin":47986,"position":0},"title":"Just in case you missed it, the GOP is trying to repeal the ACA again","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 7-Sep-17 6:58pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I had a very long post that a computer crash ate, so I'll just throw this out there -- a cynical attempt to do all the worst things that the previous repeal-and-not-really-replace effort had, but tweak the transition numbers so that key GOP Senators don't face as much heat over\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/unnamed-17.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":134792,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/20\/gobsmacking-senatorial-defenses-graham-cassidy-aca-repeal.html","url_meta":{"origin":47986,"position":1},"title":"The gobsmacking Senatorial defenses of the Graham-Cassidy ACA Repeal","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 20-Sep-17 3:33pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Which boil down to: 1. 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Though there were some bipartisan efforts starting up in the Senate, Mitch McConnell kneecapped them by pressing forward on a last-ditch Repeal-and-Not-Really-Replace-But-Do-Other-Awful-Things bill, and Paul Ryan finished the job by saying the House would not take up any bipartisan plan to fix the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/mcconnell-trump-ryan.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":41232,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/02\/27\/how-obamacare-repeal-would-be-a-cure-worse-than-the-non-existent-disease.html","url_meta":{"origin":47986,"position":5},"title":"How Obamacare repeal would be a cure worse than the (non-existent) disease","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 27-Feb-14 10:33am","format":false,"excerpt":"How Obamacare repeal would be a cure worse than the (non-existent) disease'Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, this woman is saving about $6,350 this year on premiums, which coincidentally is the most an insurance company can require an individual beneficiary to pay annually in out-of-pocket expenses. 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