{"id":4840,"date":"2003-12-22T12:10:40","date_gmt":"2003-12-22T19:10:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=4840"},"modified":"2003-12-22T12:10:40","modified_gmt":"2003-12-22T19:10:40","slug":"break_down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/12\/22\/break_down.html","title":{"rendered":"Break-down"},"content":{"rendered":"

I missed the news that the EU constitution talks suffered a major melt-down<\/a>, but it sounds like it was a real fiasco, with lots of argument over both the voting procedures and the very nature of the constitution itself. <\/p>\n

Now there’s talk in some quarters about trying to create a “core Europe<\/a>” of more agreeable, older EU members, leaving out the contentious newcomers they so recently welcomed. There’s also contention over EU money pay-outs (and curtailing them to “punish” wayward members).<\/p>\n

Even Giscard d’Estaing, the architect of the proposed constitution, proposes waiting for another year or more <\/a>until taking up the constitutional debate again. Though he’s sure it will be eventually adopted, since there is no “credible alternative proposed.”<\/p>\n

Because, yeah, that’s a good reason to do something.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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