{"id":48625,"date":"2014-12-03T13:32:11","date_gmt":"2014-12-03T20:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/03\/religious-freedom-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html"},"modified":"2014-12-03T13:32:11","modified_gmt":"2014-12-03T20:32:11","slug":"religious-freedom-for-me-but-not-for-thee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/03\/religious-freedom-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html","title":{"rendered":"Religious Freedom for me, but not for thee"},"content":{"rendered":"

A town votes down a group of Muslims wanting to set up a store-front mosque. But, y'know, it's all about the hours of operation and the traffic (despite the group agreeing to congregation size requirements by the town). I'm sure the anti-Muslim protesters outside had nothing to do with it.<\/p>\n

'“You know, if Christianity were killing people, I’m pretty sure I would have a problem with it," said Pastor C.S. Clarke of the Redeemed Christian Fellowship Church. "Then I would be concerned with that moving into my neighborhood."'<\/i><\/p>\n

First off, a religion<\/i> doesn't "kill people" — its practitioners do. And you really don't have to go far to see Christians<\/i> killing in the world today, in the name of their Christianity (let alone the recent past as in Northern Ireland or in the Jim Crow South, or, for that matter, throughout the history of Christianity).<\/i> Or are the folk who framed our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as unabashed "crusades" (complete with weapons and sites with Biblical passages on them) not to be counted? What about the violence and atrocities that have occurred, on both sides, in Christian\/Muslim fighting in some African countries? What about every Christian who's attacked (or worse) a gay person because of the sin and "abomination" involved, let alone the laws seriously debated (and passed) in good Christian countries subjecting gays to imprisonment or execution?<\/p>\n

These are not common acts on the part of the vast majority of Christians, but I could see where if Pastor Clarke wanted to move his church into a largely Muslim neighborhood, there might be some cause for "concern".<\/p>\n

Originally shared by +Les Jenkins<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n

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So much for religious freedom.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nTown Responds To Muslim Group’s Request For Mosque (Video)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

A town votes down a group of Muslims wanting to set up a store-front mosque. But, y'know, it's all about the hours of operation and the traffic (despite the group agreeing to congregation size requirements by the town). I'm sure the anti-Muslim protesters outside had nothing to do with it. 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