{"id":48736,"date":"2014-12-08T12:45:05","date_gmt":"2014-12-08T19:45:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/08\/dont-do-the-crime-if-you-cant-do-the-time-uh-huh-dont-do-it.html"},"modified":"2014-12-15T08:00:56","modified_gmt":"2014-12-15T15:00:56","slug":"dont-do-the-crime-if-you-cant-do-the-time-uh-huh-dont-do-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/08\/dont-do-the-crime-if-you-cant-do-the-time-uh-huh-dont-do-it.html","title":{"rendered":"Don&#039;t do the crime if you can&#039;t do the time (uh-huh, don&#039;t do it)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Intelligence Community Heads and Conservative Congressfolk (and Fox News): maybe the time to consider whether torture and similar acts might cause violence if they come out is <i>before you do them.<\/i> Using how others might react as an excuse to keep the truth buried doesn&#39;t make things better.<\/p>\n<p>(Note to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI): questioning why the Senate report has to be released if the Justice Department decided to file no charges is nonsensical. If no horrible crimes were committed, then why worry about the release? If the report might call into question the Justice Dept&#39;s actions, either the actions themselves or the testimony that fed them, isn&#39;t that a good thing?)<\/p>\n<p>Bear in mind that this is a 480 page <i>summary<\/i> of a still-classified 6,000-page <i>report.<\/i>  If the <i>summary<\/i> is going to cause problems, what does that say about the actions so summarized? Again, isn&#39;t that the sort of thing we should be thinking of <i>before<\/i> we do stuff?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2014\/12\/08\/house-intelligence-chairman-rogers-report-will-spur-attacks'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/zk69ZFBELSHnEPNgfW_XAGVpOeIdlsO87SgaJiGRAybQEBA3mL-JyCbU0hZj3W_ur5fy4ExESRBobSFamhY-9geihCWmKl33FL4KyVzjhSRAvSEBRCPXsN-oy5xstq5V73pV_vmV8B4_iaenzW8X5sMaF-i6m42TkvbTaLBbgBgtGg=w506-h303' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2014\/12\/08\/house-intelligence-chairman-rogers-report-will-spur-attacks'>US posts on alert over potential backlash from CIA report, lawmaker warns of &#8216;violence&#8217;<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nForeign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause violence and deaths abroad, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said Sunday.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/VChShg2bwiY'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Intelligence Community Heads and Conservative Congressfolk (and Fox News): maybe the time to consider whether torture and similar acts might cause violence if they come out is before you do them. Using how others might react as an excuse to keep the truth buried doesn&#39;t make things better. (Note to House Intelligence Committee Chairman &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/08\/dont-do-the-crime-if-you-cant-do-the-time-uh-huh-dont-do-it.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Don&#039;t do the crime if you can&#039;t do the time (uh-huh, don&#039;t do it)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,715,10,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-48736","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-crime-punishment","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-homeland-security"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":138633,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/04\/19\/so-the-mueller-report.html","url_meta":{"origin":48736,"position":0},"title":"So, the Mueller Report &#8230;","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 19-Apr-19 8:43pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Bottom line: Trump is guilty as sin. 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