{"id":48869,"date":"2014-12-11T16:45:21","date_gmt":"2014-12-11T23:45:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/11\/the-plight-of-the-poor-innocent-cia.html"},"modified":"2014-12-11T17:03:55","modified_gmt":"2014-12-12T00:03:55","slug":"the-plight-of-the-poor-innocent-cia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/11\/the-plight-of-the-poor-innocent-cia.html","title":{"rendered":"The plight of the poor, innocent CIA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Hayden has some funny (and remarkably self-serving) ideas about due process.<\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;So imprisoning Muslims without charges or trial is morally defensible, as Hayden sees it, as is killing without due process, even when scores of children predictably die as &quot;collateral damage,&quot; and even when U.S. citizens are targeted in secret. The no-fly list? Also just fine, no interviews required.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>But criticizing Hayden in a Senate report that was researched for years, based on CIA documents, and given to the current CIA director to review before publication? Criticizing him in a report that results in no penalties whatsoever without due process? That&#39;s an outrage to him.&#39;<\/i> <\/p>\n<p>Cry me a river.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2014\/12\/the-apex-of-cia-hypocrisy\/383651'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh6.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/oiC73eEg5XyiBdCIMaf94v0oDFxzoL1ixwLrL07RcsKhiXf3gDEGkGBnAskGLD8-0gggTIwxrQOdIe-PfPvFQR4sJFa-rgOf-Icycv1nBVDLKWrUUim1VeQ7I65vjlAv6N8A1Pcozg=w506-h303-p' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2014\/12\/the-apex-of-cia-hypocrisy\/383651'>The Apex of CIA Hypocrisy<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nFormer CIA Director Michael Hayden, a proponent of drone strikes and indefinite detention, complains that he and his colleagues were &#8220;never given the chance to mount a defense&#8221; of torture.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/jWfsJkEbRKR'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Hayden has some funny (and remarkably self-serving) ideas about due process. &#39;So imprisoning Muslims without charges or trial is morally defensible, as Hayden sees it, as is killing without due process, even when scores of children predictably die as &quot;collateral damage,&quot; and even when U.S. citizens are targeted in secret. The no-fly list? Also &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/11\/the-plight-of-the-poor-innocent-cia.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The plight of the poor, innocent CIA&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-48869","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":48857,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/10\/so-who-was-actually-doing-the-torture.html","url_meta":{"origin":48869,"position":0},"title":"So who was actually doing the torture?","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 10-Dec-14 9:43pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Apparently quite a few of just the sort you would expect to be involved: \"individuals who, among other issues, had engaged in inappropriate detainee interrogations, had workplace anger management issues, and had reportedly admitted to sexual assault.\"The CTC (Counter-Terrorism Center) Legal group wanted to vet all applications, but the CTC\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":48847,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/10\/if-you-have-to-be-told-not-to-overreact.html","url_meta":{"origin":48869,"position":1},"title":"If you have to be told not to overreact","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 10-Dec-14 6:26am","format":false,"excerpt":"Then you probably shouldn't be running major intelligence agencies. 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