{"id":48916,"date":"2014-12-14T21:29:32","date_gmt":"2014-12-15T04:29:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/14\/free-speech-is-disorderly.html"},"modified":"2014-12-14T21:29:32","modified_gmt":"2014-12-15T04:29:32","slug":"free-speech-is-disorderly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/12\/14\/free-speech-is-disorderly.html","title":{"rendered":"Free speech is disorderly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>And the founders realized that, as well as recognizing that it was &#8211;<i>important<\/i> to be disorderly now and again.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#39;t recommend shouting &quot;Fuck the police&quot; at the police, because it&#39;s rarely all that useful. But it doesn&#39;t warrant arrest and harrassment. In the immortal words of Lenny Bruce, <i>&#39;Take away the right to say &ldquo;fuck&rdquo; and you take away the right to say, &ldquo;Fuck the government.&rdquo;&#39;<\/i>  And take away the right to say &quot;Fuck the government&quot; (or their law enforcement branch), and your really don&#39;t have much freedom left, do you?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/boingboing.net\/2014\/12\/13\/georgia-cops-pay-100k-for-jai.html'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/1ZiAmodm71hS5D5aqMLDRjZ52sTIyMXGzw1Fys78bY8TnCvn1QTxKW21Cl1m0q3oRlKzpcFjYinaH5VM3A7uDWCjX5pEdVwlvv93ekTaV_YRmow1eb3qe-Q1pHEEi0NZsCyt=w506-h303-p' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/boingboing.net\/2014\/12\/13\/georgia-cops-pay-100k-for-jai.html'>Georgia cops pay $100K for jailing woman who said &#8220;Fuck the police&#8221;<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nAmy Barnes was jailed and held in solitary in 2012 when she called out &#8220;fuck the police&#8221; as she bicycled past Cobb County cops who were questioning a suspect by the roadside.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/im23a8Ug9EL'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And the founders realized that, as well as recognizing that it was &#8211;important to be disorderly now and again. I don&#39;t recommend shouting &quot;Fuck the police&quot; at the police, because it&#39;s rarely all that useful. But it doesn&#39;t warrant arrest and harrassment. 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