{"id":49403,"date":"2015-01-28T14:44:13","date_gmt":"2015-01-28T14:44:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/01\/28\/to-what-extent-do-we-punish-the-unvaccinated.html"},"modified":"2015-01-28T14:44:13","modified_gmt":"2015-01-28T14:44:13","slug":"to-what-extent-do-we-punish-the-unvaccinated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/01\/28\/to-what-extent-do-we-punish-the-unvaccinated.html","title":{"rendered":"To what extent do we punish the unvaccinated?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Choosing not to vaccinate your kids can be, in aggregate, deadly for kids who cannot be vaccinated. Unfortunately, that lack of hard, direct, 1:1 linkage (person X is opted out of vaccinations, person Y gets sick, or worse) provides cover for folk to dodge the results of their choice.<\/p>\n<p>The problem with the solution sought by the father in this story is that the people most directly affected by keeping kids out of school whose parents have chosen not to vaccinate them are the kids themselves. Well, sure, I guess the parents would be stuck with the question of how the heck to get their kids educated, but the kids would be impacted, too.<\/p>\n<p>There is some irony, though, in the anecdote about the father being warned not to send any peanut products to school because there were kids there with allergies. How would we treat a parent who said, &quot;Well, I think peanut allergies are overblown, and it&#39;s my belief that little Tommy needs a big PB&amp;J for lunch every day and a sack of peanuts at snack time in order to grow up healthy, and, by God, that&#39;s my right as a parent to give him those things&quot;?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.npr.org\/blogs\/health\/2015\/01\/27\/381888697\/to-protect-his-son-a-father-asks-school-to-bar-unvaccinated-children'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/yt2mgR5sLTxUohA7MES5APp-B4BoYOqrhkhszqVdodKQM3wUwXZ5KJ7u14qQ6ZPOsNMKvFam6hVwoDyOWjhm5rleMQ0f3wep4dmV6Nf_1YL-WklI84uQ0usE1cG47JP2ArjX_H4I8aS5Ca_v9hEzX6OZcf912SSRtod9aQ=w506-h303-p' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.npr.org\/blogs\/health\/2015\/01\/27\/381888697\/to-protect-his-son-a-father-asks-school-to-bar-unvaccinated-children'>To Protect His Son, A Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nA 6-year-old can&#8217;t be vaccinated against measles because he is recovering from leukemia. He faces a higher risk because parents at his California school have chosen not to vaccinate their kids.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/2P91kEPQHVg'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Choosing not to vaccinate your kids can be, in aggregate, deadly for kids who cannot be vaccinated. Unfortunately, that lack of hard, direct, 1:1 linkage (person X is opted out of vaccinations, person Y gets sick, or worse) provides cover for folk to dodge the results of their choice. The problem with the solution sought &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/01\/28\/to-what-extent-do-we-punish-the-unvaccinated.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;To what extent do we punish the unvaccinated?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49403","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":24928,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/29\/vaccinate-your-kids-part-2.html","url_meta":{"origin":49403,"position":0},"title":"Vaccinate Your Kids, Part 2","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 29-Dec-11 3:34pm","format":false,"excerpt":"No, really. 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These groups are a public health hazard, spouting provably wrong ideas that are leading\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":137945,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/25\/because-now-is-the-perfect-time-to-expand-vaccine-exemptions.html","url_meta":{"origin":49403,"position":3},"title":"Because now is the PERFECT time to expand vaccine exemptions","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 25-Feb-19 6:09pm","format":false,"excerpt":"In apparent reaction to the measles epidemic going on in the Pacific Northwest -- caused, it seems, by enough kids being opted out of measles vaccines that herd immunity has been compromised -- the bold GOP leadership of the state of Arizona is acting courageously and forthrightly on the matter:\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Health Science&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Health Science","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/health\/health-science"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Vaccine2.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Vaccine2.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Vaccine2.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Vaccine2.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":49479,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/02\/02\/my-child-is-pure-yours-can-die.html","url_meta":{"origin":49403,"position":4},"title":"&quot;My child is pure. 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