{"id":50179,"date":"2015-04-27T14:26:05","date_gmt":"2015-04-27T20:26:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/04\/27\/some-drone-victims-are-more-equal-than-others.html"},"modified":"2015-05-06T07:25:39","modified_gmt":"2015-05-06T13:25:39","slug":"some-drone-victims-are-more-equal-than-others","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/04\/27\/some-drone-victims-are-more-equal-than-others.html","title":{"rendered":"Some drone victims are more equal than others"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The politicians and pundits wringing their hands over the drone strike death of an Italian and an American hostage are intentionally ignoring the fact that we <i>know<\/i> drone strikes have killed innocent bystanders before, but the citizenry of the United States (at least) doesn&#39;t seem to much care when it&#39;s Them, only when it&#39;s Us.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/international\/archive\/2015\/04\/some-drone-victims-are-more-equal-than-others\/391490\/?utm_source=SFG%2B'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/KTSfIWAURHRpiz59mZE9rHUOckq40MQDMBg25iLvETBFcUTu6WRnQEN_mtG2h9Mas2xeqSYNYCri7eK4Wh8rfxq6JouA_UAokQp2FZAN49YAFbUCZkkFqqESf_TmY5Wlqa6waPaA4W1Wiokydfs0LiNdmmm7LxMlI4H2aUyv=w506-h303-p' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/international\/archive\/2015\/04\/some-drone-victims-are-more-equal-than-others\/391490\/?utm_source=SFG%2B'>Why It Took the Killing of Two Westerners to Raise Concern About Drone Strikes<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nAmerica&#8217;s leaders are morally incoherent on the subject of targeted killing.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/cMp9XkVtQbr'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The politicians and pundits wringing their hands over the drone strike death of an Italian and an American hostage are intentionally ignoring the fact that we know drone strikes have killed innocent bystanders before, but the citizenry of the United States (at least) doesn&#39;t seem to much care when it&#39;s Them, only when it&#39;s Us. &hellip; 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