{"id":50268,"date":"2015-05-03T21:36:13","date_gmt":"2015-05-04T03:36:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/05\/03\/because-getting-the-bad-guys-trumps-taking-care-of-the-good-guys.html"},"modified":"2015-05-04T15:40:29","modified_gmt":"2015-05-04T21:40:29","slug":"because-getting-the-bad-guys-trumps-taking-care-of-the-good-guys","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/05\/03\/because-getting-the-bad-guys-trumps-taking-care-of-the-good-guys.html","title":{"rendered":"Because getting the bad guys trumps taking care of the good guys"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Or, to quote the attorney for the plaintiff:<\/p>\n<p><i>A federally deputized corporal from the Houston Police Department decides to pay your small company&rsquo;s driver to drive your truck to the Mexican border, load it up with illegal drugs, and try to catch some bad guys. He knows that the driver is lying to &ldquo;the owner&rdquo; &ndash; although he doesn&rsquo;t know your name or identity and doesn&rsquo;t bother to find out. The bad guys outwit the cops. Your company&rsquo;s driver is killed. Your truck is riddled with bullet holes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Query:   is our federal government liable to pay for the damages to you and your property?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Answer:   Nope.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, you&#39;d think that the Fourth Amendment protection against &quot;unreasonable searches and seizures&quot; or the Fifth Amendment protection against &quot;private property be[ing] taken for public use, without just compensation&quot; would apply here.  You&#39;d be, apparently, wrong.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20150428\/16401530826\/who-pays-when-dea-destroys-your-vehicle-kills-your-employee-during-botched-sting-hint-not-dea.shtml'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/lJN9AGCLWzd-nTGPfww5--iZbtIduw0iGz4629gKB-zsoNn6ctCYR7pt4TAZ8Yis3z4rAbWe58VU=w120-h120' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20150428\/16401530826\/who-pays-when-dea-destroys-your-vehicle-kills-your-employee-during-botched-sting-hint-not-dea.shtml'>Who Pays When The DEA Destroys Your Vehicle And Kills Your Employee During A Botched Sting? Hint: Not The DEA | Techdirt<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nThe DEA likes to borrow stuff. It&#8217;s just not very good about returning borrowed items in the same shape it got them.<\/p>\n<p>Like a woman&#8217;s Facebook account.<\/p>\n<p>Or a businessman&#8217;s semi truck.<\/p>\n<p>And his employee&#8217;s life.<\/p>\n<p>Craig Patty&#8230;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/2guSsQ2WY5m'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Or, to quote the attorney for the plaintiff: A federally deputized corporal from the Houston Police Department decides to pay your small company&rsquo;s driver to drive your truck to the Mexican border, load it up with illegal drugs, and try to catch some bad guys. He knows that the driver is lying to &ldquo;the owner&rdquo; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/05\/03\/because-getting-the-bad-guys-trumps-taking-care-of-the-good-guys.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Because getting the bad guys trumps taking care of the good guys&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50268","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":134695,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/15\/asset-forfeiture-case-2nd-amendment-implications.html","url_meta":{"origin":50268,"position":0},"title":"An asset forfeiture case with 2nd Amendment implications","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 15-Sep-17 7:49am","format":false,"excerpt":"A lot of times its the Super Law-and-Order types that are most in favor of asset forfeiture laws (\"Hey, this X looks like it was part of a crime; we are taking it from you, even if we don't actually charge you with anything\"). 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