{"id":5105,"date":"2003-10-31T15:03:22","date_gmt":"2003-10-31T22:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=5105"},"modified":"2003-10-31T15:03:22","modified_gmt":"2003-10-31T22:03:22","slug":"now_thats_scary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/10\/31\/now_thats_scary.html","title":{"rendered":"Now <i>that&#8217;s<\/i> scary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.blinne.org\/blog\/2003\/10\/casper_city_cou.html\">Rich blogs <\/a>on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/10\/29\/marked.html\">further developments <\/a>in the shenanigans of the &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Fred Phelps and the city of Casper, Wyoming.<\/p>\n<p>Two statements, from either side, highlight a couple of important principles:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">&#8220;This is where our statement of faith, our statements of values, our backbone belongs,&#8221; [Casper City Council rep] Peryam said while endorsing the historic plaza plan. &#8220;And for those outsiders who think they can run our city, I say, &#8216;Thank you, thank you very, very much.&#8217; Because, you know what, if you think that we are going to put our monument someplace in cold storage, I&#8217;ve got another thought for you. We are going to put it where it will be more noticed, more taken advantage of and used for learning purposes by all families.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That, of course, is one of the problems &#8212; that the Casper City Council is universalizing the Ten Commandments to be &#8220;<i>our <\/i>statement of faith, <i>our <\/i>statements of values, <i>our <\/i>backbone.&#8221;  I wonder how I would feel, were I a Buddhist resident &#8212; current or prospective &#8212; reading that coming from an elected official.<\/p>\n<p>For that matter, a statement like that is likely to run them into trouble when they start trying to argue that the Decalogue is only an &#8220;historic&#8221; document on display on public property. <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, there&#8217;s this little bit from Phelps, who&#8217;s now trying to buy a slice of town square land in a small Idaho town, similar to what the American Legion is doing there for another Ten Commandments monument:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Phelps, 73, of Topeka, Kan., said he was unconcerned that his anti-gay message could prevent the Ten Commandments from being displayed in Rupert, a community of 5,645 people about 165 miles southeast of Boise.<br \/>\n&#8221;My message is infinitely more important than the Ten Commandments, because nobody is delivering it,&#8221; Phelps said.<\/p>\n<p>Riiiiight.  Pretty Godly of you there, Fred.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rich blogs on further developments in the shenanigans of the &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Fred Phelps and the city of Casper, Wyoming. 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