{"id":51947,"date":"2015-07-25T16:29:04","date_gmt":"2015-07-25T22:29:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/25\/whenever-there-is-a-shooting.html"},"modified":"2015-07-25T16:29:04","modified_gmt":"2015-07-25T22:29:04","slug":"whenever-there-is-a-shooting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/25\/whenever-there-is-a-shooting.html","title":{"rendered":"Whenever there is a shooting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Can we finally talk about guns?&quot;<\/p>\n<p><i>&quot;No, it&#39;s not about guns, it&#39;s about mental health!  These are just crazy people!&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&quot;Okay, let&#39;s talk about mental health spending then.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><i>&quot;The only way to protect against crazy people is more guns!&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>To be fair, this is not just a Bobby Jindal thing. It&#39;s probably not just a GOP thing, either, though a lot of the governmental booting of the mentally ill to the curb dates back to Ronald Reagan in his own governorship days.<\/p>\n<p>But, then, the whole &quot;mental health&quot; hand-wringing is just a standard kabuki tactic whenever there is a mass shooting (at least when done by someone who&#39;s white). Until the GOP (as the general leaders on toeing the NRA line) is willing to pony up some actual <i>money<\/i> to deal with mental health issues, then it makes perfect sense to talk about treating the immediate symptom: <i>guns getting into the hands of people who shouldn&#39;t have them.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style='text-align:center'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/photos\/101083456815352083930\/albums\/6175573423970373233\/6175573429047767394'><img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-UuvuoseJZA4\/VbQLUGq7sWI\/AAAAAAADWRo\/u1i_R7x3XHA\/jindal%2Bmental%2Bhealth.png?imgmax=660' style='max-width:650px;' \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style='text-align:center'>\n<a href='' style='width:50px;height:50px;display:inline-block;background-size:cover;background-image:url();'><\/a>\u00a0\n<\/div>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/Y54QyTvQ2ce'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Can we finally talk about guns?&quot; &quot;No, it&#39;s not about guns, it&#39;s about mental health! These are just crazy people!&quot; &quot;Okay, let&#39;s talk about mental health spending then.&quot; &quot;The only way to protect against crazy people is more guns!&quot; To be fair, this is not just a Bobby Jindal thing. It&#39;s probably not just a &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/07\/25\/whenever-there-is-a-shooting.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Whenever there is a shooting&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":51948,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-51947","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/jindal+mental+health.pngimgmax=660.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":135900,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/02\/16\/guns-and-nutters.html","url_meta":{"origin":51947,"position":0},"title":"Guns and Nutters","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 16-Feb-18 7:28am","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm all in favor of getting people access to the mental health they need. 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