{"id":5444,"date":"2004-03-10T10:56:50","date_gmt":"2004-03-10T17:56:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/03\/10\/a-good-harvest.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:22:40","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:22:40","slug":"a_good_harvest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/03\/10\/a_good_harvest.html","title":{"rendered":"A good harvest"},"content":{"rendered":"

You would think the American Family Association would learn after their abortive (so to speak) gay marriage poll <\/a>that (a) online polls are worthless, regardless of whether (b) people set out intentionally to distort them.<\/p>\n

But, no<\/a>. Now we have a presidential poll (Bush\/Kerry\/Nader). From the e-mail:<\/p>\n

You help is requested in gaining the opinion of on-line voters to the following question. Whom do you favor for the next President of the United States – John Kerry, George W. Bush, or Ralph Nader?
\nCast your vote. Forward to a friend. Help us feel the pulse of America.<\/p>\n

At least I could see them using the (planned, targeted to their audience) results of the poll as a club against congressfolk (at least ones who are ignorant of statistics and surveys, or have constituents who are). But there’s eleventy-zillion polls out there on the presidential race, on an daily basis. What possible useful information could they get from folks taking this poll?<\/p>\n

Beside, y’know, people’s political-preference-correllated e-mail addresses?<\/p>\n

NOTE REGARDING USE OF INFORMATION<\/b>: Periodically, in keeping with our Privacy Policy, we may notify you via e-mail of updates on matters of importance …<\/p>\n

Ah.<\/p>\n

(via Marc<\/b>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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