{"id":5462,"date":"2004-03-08T07:10:31","date_gmt":"2004-03-08T14:10:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/03\/08\/nice-sexist-piggy-good-sexist-piggy.html"},"modified":"2004-03-08T07:10:31","modified_gmt":"2004-03-08T14:10:31","slug":"nice_sexist_pig","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/03\/08\/nice_sexist_pig.html","title":{"rendered":"Nice sexist piggy &#8230; good sexist piggy &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockymountainnews.com\/drmn\/news_columnists\/article\/0,1299,DRMN_86_2712200,00.html\">article in this morning&#8217;s <i>Rocky<\/a> <\/i>sent me over to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.understandingprejudice.org\">Understanding Prejudice <\/a>site, which includes a survey to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.understandingprejudice.org\/asi\/\">determine your degree of sexism <\/a>along two axes:  <i>hostile <\/i>sexism (women are vile, deceptive bitches who seek to rule over men) and what they call <i>benevolent <\/i>sexism (women are lily-pure alabaster spirits that should be cherished and protected and sought after for moral and cultural guidance) &#8212; whore and madonna imagery, respectively.<\/p>\n<p>I came out, in a scale of 0-5, as 2.00 on hostile sexism, and 2.18 on benevolent sexism.  Oink.  This makes me actually better than the world-wide results for both genders, but, in the US, only better than the average man (see standard disclaimers for self-selection and all that).<\/p>\n<p>Still, it would seem that I have a ways to go before I am wholly unsexist.  Maybe.  The survey instrument itself has a few, to my mind, glaring problems that keep it from working the way I think it&#8217;s intended to:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>There are a couple of questions on whether the love of a woman is necessary for a man to be fully actualized.  I think that love of (with, toward, from) another is part of that for most people, but I&#8217;m also aware that, in some cases, that love might be from\/with\/toward another man.  So I expressed only moderate agreement.\n<li>There were some statements along the lines of &#8220;men should cherish and protect women.&#8221;  I think that&#8217;s true.  I think women should cherish and protect men, too, but that wasn&#8217;t asked for.\n<li>There were a lot of universal statements like &#8220;Women claim sexual discrimination when they lose in fair competition with a man.&#8221;  Well, I don&#8217;t think most women act that way, but I think some women do.  So if I disagree with the universality of the statement, but think it applies in some cases, should I utterly disagree (it&#8217;s not universal), or should I only somewhat disagree (it happens)?<\/ul>\n<p>As a result, I think I come up higher in both axes than is probably fair.  I do acknowledge that there are some manipulative, scheming, and\/or oversensitive women out there &#8212; but I think the same&#8217;s true for men.  I think that love and intimacy and partnership with my wife has made me a better person than I was or was likely to be, and, with large caveats, am willing to generalize from that and other cases I&#8217;ve seen in my life.<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;ll admit to a chivalric prejudice toward &#8220;women and children first,&#8221; so I guess that gives me a frisson of benevolent sexism, regardless.  Though I hold the door open for anyone who needs it.<\/p>\n<p>You be the judge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An article in this morning&#8217;s Rocky sent me over to the Understanding Prejudice site, which includes a survey to determine your degree of sexism along two axes: hostile sexism (women&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5462","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":41407,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/03\/12\/on-being-consciously-non-sexist.html","url_meta":{"origin":5462,"position":0},"title":"On Being Consciously Non-Sexist","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 12-Mar-14 3:10pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Or non-racist, or non-[fill-in-the-blank]ist ...There seem to be three levels here that the label of sexism (to choose an ism - and just to further simplify, we'll make it sexism against women) covers:1. 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