{"id":5570,"date":"2004-02-18T21:50:06","date_gmt":"2004-02-19T04:50:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/02\/18\/more-of-that-gay-marriage-stuff.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T14:05:53","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T21:05:53","slug":"more_of_that_ga","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/02\/18\/more_of_that_ga.html","title":{"rendered":"More of that gay marriage stuff"},"content":{"rendered":"

Two <\/a>articles <\/a>from Julia:<\/p>\n

The first is from a conservative commentator who’s even more dedicated to marriage as a moral imperative than I am — and thus is adament that conservatives ought to be leading the charge toward <\/i>gay marriage<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The conservative course is not to banish gay people from making such commitments. It is to expect that they make such commitments. We shouldn’t just allow gay marriage. We should insist on gay marriage. We should regard it as scandalous that two people could claim to love each other and not want to sanctify their love with marriage and fidelity.<\/p>\n

A bit more extreme in places than I would frame it, but worth showing to all your conservative friends and family.<\/p>\n

The second is a tongue-in-cheek list of reasons why gay marriage is a bad thing<\/a>:<\/p>\n

3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
\n4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
\n5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are property, blacks can’t marry whites, and divorce is illegal.<\/p>\n

Good stuff.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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