{"id":5669,"date":"2004-01-27T12:56:31","date_gmt":"2004-01-27T19:56:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/01\/27\/perhaps-hed-support-a-free-speech-zone-approach.html"},"modified":"2004-01-27T12:56:31","modified_gmt":"2004-01-27T19:56:31","slug":"perhaps_hed_sup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/27\/perhaps_hed_sup.html","title":{"rendered":"Perhaps he&#8217;d support a Free Speech Zone approach"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In defense of &#8220;freedom of speech,&#8221; Al Franken <a title=\"New York Post Online Edition: news\" href=\"http:\/\/nypost.com\/news\/nationalnews\/16692.htm\">body-slammed a heckler from behind<\/a> and threw him to the ground at a New Hampshire Dean campaign stop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">&#8220;I got down low and took his legs out,&#8221; said Franken afterwards. <br \/>\nFranken said he&#8217;s not backing Dean but merely wanted to protect the right of people to speak freely. &#8220;I would have done it if he was a Dean supporter at a Kerry rally,&#8221; he said. <br \/>\n&#8220;I&#8217;m neutral in this race but I&#8217;m for freedom of speech, which means people should be able to assemble and speak without being shouted down.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hmmm.  Wonder if he&#8217;d have done it if it were a Dean supporter at a <i>Bush<\/i> rally.<\/p>\n<p>Or for that matter, I wonder what the headlines would read if it had been, say, Sean Hannity knocking down a heckler at a Bush rally.  Or, for that matter, a Secret Service agent doing the body-slamming.<\/p>\n<p>I have no great fondness for Lyndon LaRouche supporters (whose candidate sort of epitomizes the idea that if you go far enough to the fringe, both the Left and Right circle back together).  But I find the idea that assault is a reasonable defense of free speech, or an acceptable way to deal with hecklers, to be more than a bit dubious. <\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.command-post.org\/mt2\/mt-tb.cgi?__mode=view&#038;entry_id=9896\">Command Post<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In defense of &#8220;freedom of speech,&#8221; Al Franken body-slammed a heckler from behind and threw him to the ground at a New Hampshire Dean campaign stop. &#8220;I got down low&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5669","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":15738,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/09\/08\/unblogged-bits-for-tuesday-08-september-2009.html","url_meta":{"origin":5669,"position":0},"title":"Unblogged Bits for Tuesday, 08 September 2009","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 8-Sep-09 6:00pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Links (most recent first) that caught my eye, but did not warrant full-blown blog entries .... 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